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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig View Post
    That's what I was asking, which I did poorly. Thanks for clearing that up.
    Yeah, you're not alone. There's a lot of shit talk on certain threads on this forum about "ikon pass skiers" and those of us in California are like, well, that's our only pass option to ski Squaw / Mammoth so it's kind of a funny disconnect.

    Quote Originally Posted by schindlerpiste View Post
    Same exact language as DV.
    "Season Pass holder"...Is an IKON pass holder a "season pass holder" as far as these resorts are concerned?
    Depends on the resort. The resorts owned by Alterra (Squawlpine, Mammoth, Winter Park, Steamboat), yes definitely, the others are on a case by case basis. Aspen, on the other hand, is a weird exception because even though it's owned by Alterra there's still a non Ikon pass option.

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    Winter Park isn't owned by ikon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Winter Park isn't owned by ikon.
    I know the City of Denver is technically the owner of the land, but for all intents and purposes, its an Alterra resort.
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    Probably already posted but good article here, especially as it lists what resorts are considered "partners" and which are Alterra owned/operated.

    https://www.powder.com/stories/news/...-destinations/

    Basically, Alterra is saying that "partners' will set their own policy while "Alterra owned" will consider Ikon pass holders as "pass holders" so would not need to make reservations.

    Excerpt from the article
    "Each of the partner resorts on the Ikon Pass (those not owned by Alterra) has the autonomy to make their own operating decisions. Arapahoe Basin Ski Area, Big Sky Resort, Brighton, Jackson Hole Mountain Resort, Loon Mountain in New Hampshire, Taos Ski Valley, and New York’s Windham Mountain therefore will require guests to make advance lift reservations."

    Aspen Snowmass is still trying to figure out their operating plan.
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    The "autonomy"? I think they have the leverage - to create a Tier 2 Icon customer which they can use to backfill capacity in slow periods or which they can restrict (via lift access or parking reservations) when they have enough of their own passholders who want to ski that day. Feels like a great mechanism for the "partners" to manage the uncertainty of the season...

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    So, fine. Price a more restricted pass. Maybe 200-250. I'm not paying the same price as last year when I could just show up and hit an RIFD gate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    So, fine. Price a more restricted pass. Maybe 200-250. I'm not paying the same price as last year when I could just show up and hit an RIFD gate.
    Then don't buy it.

    Shit is different this year Benny. There's a global pandemic in case ya missed it.

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    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    So, fine. Price a more restricted pass. Maybe 200-250. I'm not paying the same price as last year when I could just show up and hit an RIFD gate.
    Here you go. Enjoy winter.

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    I need to read through Ikon's fine print, but asking here just in case anyone here has already done it --

    If I select a specific resort for Ikon's "Adventure Assurance" Covid closure policy, and that resort does close down because of Covid -- does that closure have any effect on usage of the Ikon pass at other resorts?
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    Does anyone know what "prioritizing season pass holders" actually looks like in practice? And it seems like, in the case of Crystal, if everyone Ikon pass holder in the Puget Sound showed up it would be wildy overcrowded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    I need to read through Ikon's fine print, but asking here just in case anyone here has already done it --

    If I select a specific resort for Ikon's "Adventure Assurance" Covid closure policy, and that resort does close down because of Covid -- does that closure have any effect on usage of the Ikon pass at other resorts?
    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    no
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwslider View Post
    Does anyone know what "prioritizing season pass holders" actually looks like in practice?
    Relax. Nobody knows for a few months. Not even the person who wrote that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwslider View Post
    Does anyone know what "prioritizing season pass holders" actually looks like in practice? And it seems like, in the case of Crystal, if everyone Ikon pass holder in the Puget Sound showed up it would be wildy overcrowded.
    This will be the first season of such a policy. Although, XTAL last year experienced all those pass holders showing up with everyone else on weekends. So, that's going to be a problem for resorts who think that not every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Jane with season's pass isn't going to show up all at once on any given weekend.

    My guess is there will be a lot of bitching and complaining by season pass holders this season expecting to have a gondola or 6 pack all to themselves.

    People will need to reset their expectations settings this season, and then adjust them even lower later on as things go into the COVID infected toilet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    I need to read through Ikon's fine print, but asking here just in case anyone here has already done it --

    If I select a specific resort for Ikon's "Adventure Assurance" Covid closure policy, and that resort does close down because of Covid -- does that closure have any effect on usage of the Ikon pass at other resorts?
    this is why people are trying to strategize about gaming the system. Pick the resort most likely to close, get money back (deferred to next year I think), and ski all the time at other resorts.

    my local resort (Eldora) is probably a good pick (unfortunately) if you want to go that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    this is why people are trying to strategize about gaming the system. Pick the resort most likely to close, get money back (deferred to next year I think), and ski all the time at other resorts.

    my local resort (Eldora) is probably a good pick (unfortunately) if you want to go that route.
    I picked Squawlpine because it's in CA and closest Ikon to the bay area - which are both factors that may be in favor of closures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwslider View Post
    Does anyone know what "prioritizing season pass holders" actually looks like in practice? And it seems like, in the case of Crystal, if everyone Ikon pass holder in the Puget Sound showed up it would be wildy overcrowded.
    The way I see it, Crystal skiers who don't have the freedom to ski midweek will have a high chance of a frustrating season. If I lived up there as a weekend skier, sure I would still buy IKON, but I'd hold on to my right to defer for a long time before choosing to scan my pass. Like, I might just watch the lift line crowds on the Crystal webcams until mid-January, and not get scanned unless Crystal proves all the way through mid- to late-January that it's not a shitshow on weekends and won't impose new unexpected reservation limits for weekends. Your call. [/Doom&Gloom]

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    Mt. Bachelor is changing the blackout dates, instead of requiring lift reservations (well, they are requiring parking reservations):
    "We have increased the typical number of black-out days on Ikon Base pass visitation, 12-Day and 4-Day passes, and limited the sale of the 4-Day pass."
    - https://www.mtbachelor.com/culture/m...blog?page=2821

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    Why wouldn't you want to select "All Destinations' as the Adventure Assurance option. Seems like if any Ikon resorts closed due to Covid 19, then you would get a credit. Wouldn't this be better than single destination? What am I missing?
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    So, ok, simple question here, since I haven't been digging too deep. What has to happen if I want a full credit for next season if I buy Ikon? The resorts closing and, therefore, I get no days, or will I get credit if I choose not to use the pass at all due to covid fear? Or, both? And then, which resort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheK12 View Post
    Why wouldn't you want to select "All Destinations' as the Adventure Assurance option. Seems like if any Ikon resorts closed due to Covid 19, then you would get a credit. Wouldn't this be better than single destination? What am I missing?
    Doesn't it work that by selecting "all destinations" If your home mountain closes you get the same credit as somewhere the other side of the country closing gets you. Seems that option is aimed at the tourist rather than those who now by default have an Ikon pass as there home mountain's season pass>
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheK12 View Post
    Why wouldn't you want to select "All Destinations' as the Adventure Assurance option. Seems like if any Ikon resorts closed due to Covid 19, then you would get a credit. Wouldn't this be better than single destination? What am I missing?
    I plan on mainly using my Ikon at Crystal this winter, so I chose Crystal. The scenario that would most screw me is Crystal is open as normal in December and getting dumped on. I use my pass in December and therefore, cannot defer. Then COVID spikes in WA and they chose to impose a lock down for Jan, Feb, ect. But other areas are not on full lock down. This would most screw me so I chose the single area assurance option. But I would love if others could point out my flawed logic because I don't really understand all this. Any actuarial scientist here who can assist us with this very difficult insurance decision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    I plan on mainly using my Ikon at Crystal this winter, so I chose Crystal. The scenario that would most screw me is Crystal is open as normal in December and getting dumped on. I use my pass in December and therefore, cannot defer. Then COVID spikes in WA and they chose to impose a lock down for Jan, Feb, ect. But other areas are not on full lock down. This would most screw me so I chose the single area assurance option. But I would love if others could point out my flawed logic because I don't really understand all this. Any actuarial scientist here who can assist us with this very difficult insurance decision?
    Makes sense to me. In the end, it seems like a way for resorts to pinch some pennies. They get their money if you don't ski and buy the pass - only rolling some over to next season. If you do ski, and cannot defer, they still get the money. And in the latter scenario, the skier is effed out of a full season.

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    I already bought Ikon with 90% of our season to be spent at Squaw/alpine(or whatever Im allowed to call it in a public forum...) Probably make a trip up to Bachelor to use a couple or a few days up there, always have fine intentions of making the drive to Mammoth but havent yet(been out in CA for 5 yrs, bay area, long drive in winter yo), with that Im conflicted...Hoping for some discussion from the Tahoe/TGR glitterati....

    does it basically come down to a "Roll of the dice"?

    First question: Are any of the locations more or less likely to be closed due to Covid? (looking for reasons why any single location is more or less likely to close, I was thinking Tahoe region in general would be more likely to close(crowded, serves a large population, but who knows?)

    Second question: Since you receive a prorated credit when choosing ALL, regardless of which locations close, even if for one day, the amount would likely be smaller, right?

    Third Question: If you choose a specific location and it does close for more than 7 consecutive days, you would get a larger credit? But if you really only ski at that one location, why wouldn't you choose it? Does it Matter? I can still visit any Ikon location whether I choose a single or All, right?

    And, from what I can tell, I will not need reservations with an Ikon base pass this coming season, at any of the locations as far as what Alterra resorts/partners are saying today?

    My goal is to actually go skiing this winter, I wont be waiting to see if there are ridiculous lines, I'm still going to go, and like I said it'll be at squaw alpine. 4 Ikon base Passes in the family. there is some money involved and whatever credit i receive would be a multiple of 4. I guess I could declare for two one way and the other way for the other two?

    As far as Bachelor adding more non-useable dates, I think in general IKON Base added a couple more dates than last year, and Bachelor is adhering to these slightly enhanced IKON non-useable dates, am I wrong on this? Bach website is still showing IKON and the same non-useable dates...

    great season so far....

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