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    Ikon Pass

    Even if itís super conservative, thereís no way Iím riding a lift with randos this season on full lifts. If WP is doing that, then I wonít be skiing the magical trees at the Jane. Oh well.

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    This seems more problematic on a lift than in other places cuz you can't simply walk away from the maskless person unless you wanna take a big jump.
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    Ya think?
    Quote Originally Posted by blazes_boylan View Post
    One of the big concerns that was expressed was that the anti-mask crowd will remove masks after loading lift to "make a point" as we've seen time and again across the country and that self-policing is not realistically gonna work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazes_boylan View Post
    This seems more problematic on a lift than in other places cuz you can't simply walk away from the maskless person unless you wanna take a big jump.
    Maskless, hacking person. Thatís my fear.
    More so in the bathroom than on the lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazes_boylan View Post
    One of the big concerns that was expressed was that the anti-mask crowd will remove masks after loading lift to "make a point" as we've seen time and again across the country and that self-policing is not realistically gonna work.
    That's when you start taking video ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazes_boylan View Post
    They do not plan to alter lift loading (keep parties separated) and plan to load full chairs unless the County or State requires it (with the exception of possibly the gondola). They believe their science shows this is not necessary. (Similar to what Alterra's CEO said a while back).
    What kind of science is WP doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Maskless, hacking person. That’s my fear.
    More so in the bathroom than on the lift.
    Masks and some sort of separation must be mandatory, no doubt, but I really hope people who are vulnerable or afraid just stay home. Do not make this worse for yourself or others. The virus is gonna do what viruses do, and there will definitely be transmission. We are in the midst of a pandemic.

    just give lifties ticket issueing privileges for those not wearing masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    This thread is about as much fun as a raging case of eyeball herpes.
    Seems equivalent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrieIbex View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrieIbex View Post
    Masks and some sort of separation must be mandatory, no doubt, but I really hope people who are vulnerable or afraid just stay home. Do not make this worse for yourself or others. The virus is gonna do what people do, and there will definitely be transmission. We are in the midst of a pandemic.

    just give lifties ticket issueing privileges for those not wearing masks.
    Fixed it for you.
    Vulnerable people should stay home? Let's see--balancing the opportunity for someone to do something they love (vulnerable people love skiing as much as everyone else) vs the freedom to not have to do something mildly inconvenient. Seems like the equation comes out in favor of the former. Vulnerable people (probably half this forum) should be able to ski without being afraid. People who are just scared should stay home but I doubt many of them are skiers.

    Remember all the bitching last season when the lifts stopped turning? How many people crying about wearing masks would have gladly worn one last season if that would have kept the resorts open? For that matter, keeping the lifts turning this season could well depend on whether people wear them this season. So if you love skiing wear a mask. If you don't love skiing enough to wear a mask stay home. (That's the general "you", not the personal "you". I'd ride a lift with you if there was a space between us. And BTW--my base layer is not getting washed next season. Not once.)

    Yes there will still be transmission. Let's keep it to a minimum.
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    Becoming increasingly intolerant of Ikon / Alterra - Friday the GM of _________ responded to my email saying Ďyea weíre working out all the items- but weíve publicly jumped the gun on sharing & need to be more close to the vest...

    Then Sugarbush drops the bomb & declares no seasonal programming nor group lessons....

    CíMon Man- get ur communications organized & why is ĎBush phoning it in on programming?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    my professors baboon
    yes. Vulnerable people should stay home when possible. Skiing isn’t a necessity. Hasn’t Fauci been saying this since the beginning?

    I’m not trying to be a dick, I just don’t want you (read: my father who’s probably your age) becoming a statistic. Not to mention, people complaining about the stats, but then disregarding guidelines.

    that’s a good idea though. Get so stanky that people want to hold their breath around you. If they aren’t breathing, they aren’t transmitting this virus?
    Last edited by IrieIbex; 09-20-2020 at 07:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    And BTW--my base layer is not getting washed next season. Not once.)

    Yes there will still be transmission. Let's keep it to a minimum.
    I did this same thing hiking this summer. Wore the same stuff until it got so stanky I couldn't stand wearing it in the car on the way to the trailhead. It seemed to help. The Outdoor Research Echo pieces seem to funk up fast and really hold a funk nicely. This is the year to skip merino and go all synthetic, for sure.

    Also, no deodorant, make sure you're holding some dank nugs, and don't shower before heading to the hill. Obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    I did this same thing hiking this summer. Wore the same stuff until it got so stanky I couldn't stand wearing it in the car on the way to the trailhead. It seemed to help. The Outdoor Research Echo pieces seem to funk up fast and really hold a funk nicely. This is the year to skip merino and go all synthetic, for sure.

    Also, no deodorant, make sure you're holding some dank nugs, and don't shower before heading to the hill. Obviously.
    And if things are really crowded, eat a bean breakfast burrito, skip the bathroom and shit your pants. Works every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrieIbex View Post
    yes. Vulnerable people should stay home when possible. Skiing isn’t a necessity. Hasn’t Fauci been saying this since the beginning?

    I’m not trying to be a dick, I just don’t want you (read: my father who’s probably your age) becoming a statistic. Not to mention, people complaining about the stats, but then disregarding guidelines.

    that’s a good idea though. Get so stanky that people want to hold their breath around you. If they aren’t breathing, they aren’t transmitting this virus?
    Gotta remember that vulnerable people interact with those who go skiing.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    And if things are really crowded, eat a bean breakfast burrito, skip the bathroom and shit your pants. Works every time.
    Haha. I got stuck in a bubble top lift in Japan with this guy who smelled like shit and I contemplated trying to jump off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Maskless, hacking person. Thatís my fear.
    More so in the bathroom than on the lift.
    Was buying some items at the store yesterday. Some old dude started hacking. He had a mask on, but lowered it to hack some more. I took one angry look at the dude, turned around and left. No way in hell, I want to be in that scenario on a chair lift. I guess, you would need to judge which way the wind is blowing, and make sure you are up wind from some random skier on a chair.

    ETA: Was skiing in Zermatt about 10 years ago. There were a lot of folks hacking and coughing in the village. I ended up on a gondola with some Dutch folks, one of which was coughing and sniffling. Gondi gets stopped for about 15 minutes, and then starts up again. Two days later I've got severe bronchial infection. So, just imagine that scenario playing out in the COVID era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Gotta remember that vulnerable people interact with those who go skiing.
    and? That doesn’t make it right for vulnerable people to go out Skiing and get sick, inflate the numbers, then blame Republicans for this mess when both sides are disregarding guidelines. Not to mention that makes us stay closed down and ruins the education of lots of young people, including myself.

    One of the biggest things I’m realizing from this virus, is that the current crop of old people are selfish AF. I may catch some heat for that, but I don’t care. A lot of my friends have been talking about this lately. Most people I see without masks are older people in fact.

    We close the country dowN for you, then you go out skiing or to the gym or whatever and get sick, then the numbers get bad, round and round we go and we can’t reopen shit. God this is infuriating.

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    holy shit JONG. seriously? oy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    holy shit JONG. seriously? oy.
    is that all ok though? Please enlighten me to why, I’m happy to change my mind if I’m just flat out wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrieIbex View Post
    and? That doesn’t make it right for vulnerable people to go out Skiing and get sick, inflate the numbers, then blame Republicans for this mess when both sides are disregarding guidelines. Not to mention that makes us stay closed down and ruins the education of lots of young people, including myself.

    One of the biggest things I’m realizing from this virus, is that the current crop of old people are selfish AF. I may catch some heat for that, but I don’t care. A lot of my friends have been talking about this lately. Most people I see without masks are older people in fact.

    We close the country dowN for you, then you go out skiing or to the gym or whatever and get sick, then the numbers get bad, round and round we go and we can’t reopen shit. God this is infuriating.
    You appeared to have read right past what I thought was the obvious implication of my statement... right on past and down some political rabbit hole.

    Let me spell it out for you...

    Gotta remember that vulnerable people interact with people who go skiing. Therefor, telling the vulnerable to stay home so that you can ostensibly not worry about transmissions related to skiing is just silly, because the virus doesn't stop at the next transmission. It keeps going, as communicable disease does. All transmissions matter.

    Due to altitude, those not acclimated (non-locals) are already prone to be hypoxic. Thus, they tend to have worse morbidity than expected with respiratory illnesses.
    Last edited by Summit; 09-21-2020 at 05:24 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrieIbex View Post
    and? That doesnít make it right for vulnerable people to go out Skiing and get sick, inflate the numbers, then blame Republicans for this mess when both sides are disregarding guidelines. Not to mention that makes us stay closed down and ruins the education of lots of young people, including myself.

    One of the biggest things Iím realizing from this virus, is that the current crop of old people are selfish AF. I may catch some heat for that, but I donít care. A lot of my friends have been talking about this lately. Most people I see without masks are older people in fact.

    We close the country dowN for you, then you go out skiing or to the gym or whatever and get sick, then the numbers get bad, round and round we go and we canít reopen shit. God this is infuriating.
    Young people are killing old people:



    I'm pretty sure my 20 year old self would have handled this pandemic with entitled indifference, but I'm also pretty sure I would have realized that I was being entitled and indifferent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post


    Also, people who don't live at altitude and have few risk factors fare surprisingly badly with respiratory illnesses (such as COVID) as they are already a bit hypoxic.
    This is confusing. Or typo?
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    This is confusing. Or typo?
    Yes, I wrote that poorly. My English teach from 9th grade is spinning in her grave.

    I was trying to say that due to altitude, those not acclimated (non-locals) are already prone to be hypoxic. Thus, they tend to have worse morbidity than expected with respiratory illnesses.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Yes, I wrote that poorly. My English teach from 9th grade is spinning in her grave.

    I was trying to say that due to altitude, those not acclimated (non-locals) are already prone to be hypoxic. Thus, they tend to have worse morbidity than expected with respiratory illnesses.
    That makes sense -- you're referring to those who would visit Ikon areas from lower-elevation home.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    That makes sense -- you're referring to those who would visit Ikon areas from lower-elevation home.
    Exactly
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Back on the Adventure Assurance topic, I'm actually thinking pick the destination resort (Big Sky) over the closest resort (Big Bear) that I just visit to take the kids skiing. Figure I would be more bummed about not skiing Big Sky and rather get a credit for that. Catch would be if I use it couple days at Big Bear and then Big Bear/Mammoth close early and out of state travel becomes an issue.

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