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01-22-2018, 07:42 AM #26
Kinda almost thinking you can't. Baked an older set of luxury high volumes a few months ago...pretty sure my 'wrecked' liner was baked in the upper 200 degree range. Smoke pouring out of oven, had to huck the whole works out into the snow. Liner was as soft as molton molasses. Thought it was a goner for sure. In the end, it lost a bit of volume of foam and it shrunk a large percentage...but...used a good thick toe cap/lots of padding and preserved length. The foam got denser due to loss of gas from the closed cells which increased the performance due to stiffer liner. In the end, i really can't tell the difference between either boot while skiing em. Good enough for me.
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01-22-2018, 07:58 AM #27
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01-22-2018, 08:19 PM #28
Ok, so I pulled the liners out to see what was up before I tried to mold again. Holy effing creases. No wonder my toes hurt. Stumped as to how to not have that crease where it overlaps. This is a 27 liner in a 26.5 shell. Almost 2 full fingers of extra space when I put my bare foot in the empty boot shell. This is the correct liner, so why does it seem like I have way too much extra liner material?
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01-22-2018, 09:49 PM #29
Woah, you done fucked those up.
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01-22-2018, 09:52 PM #30retired ed
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01-22-2018, 09:54 PM #31
Stitching definitely off of center on the left liner (right liner in picture). Figured that wasn't anything major, but who knows.
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01-22-2018, 10:02 PM #32retired ed
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All my intuitions have been non-wraps, but that stitching difference would have me emailing the rep/customer service. It doesn't seem right to me.
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01-22-2018, 10:04 PM #33
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01-22-2018, 10:11 PM #34
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01-22-2018, 10:29 PM #35retired ed
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01-22-2018, 10:34 PM #36
I normally use a digital heat gun with a rubber hose stuffed in the liner to heat from the toes back while in the shell, with a towel loosely around the top to help hold in the heat.
Last time did my GF's Pro Wraps in the oven though. Think the first liner was at 225 or 230 for around 15 minutes (it took awhile), then bumped up the heat to 235 or 240 for the second liner thinking it would go quicker. #1 came out very nice, very pliable and ready to mold. #2 puffed up like a balloon in less than 10 minutes, making it hard to get in the shell, and then it shrank smaller than #1 when it cooled.
Suspect there's a fine line between "very nice" and "sonofabitch!" around 230 or so degrees.Last edited by 1000-oaks; 01-23-2018 at 10:54 AM.
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01-22-2018, 10:43 PM #37
having just come across this thread now, if I've been skiing the intuition liners in my scarpa freedoms for two seasons, is it still worth heat molding them now?
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01-22-2018, 11:08 PM #38
Less than 1 finger? Seriously? You can't get a finger inbetween the shell and your heel? Even the race boot fitters didnt go that tight with us (for the modified version after blowing out / stretching). Your foot or finger must be very different from mine. Or you are a masochist...
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01-22-2018, 11:52 PM #39
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01-23-2018, 06:47 AM #40Registered User
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01-23-2018, 06:51 AM #41
A 27 liner in a 26.5 shell is the recco per intuition for powerwrap liners.
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01-23-2018, 06:52 AM #42
212` boiling water method isn't enough heat if you need more than a slight adjustment.
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01-23-2018, 07:09 AM #43
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01-23-2018, 08:00 AM #44
I've molded a dozen or so liners and never needed 230F. 220F max and and you'll know they're done when they puff up a bit--watch them carefully, because if they stay in too long at 220F they will be too floppy = creases. When you get a fit kit from Intuition you get a black stocking to place around the liner so when you insert your foot and liner into shell, it 1) slides in easy, 2) keeps the liner from folding over onto itself. You can also use a woman' nylon stocking---you may need to use a plus size.
Also, try not to pull on them when inserting your foot and do not pull on them while your foot is in there. If you have really stiff shells--heat the boot shell a bit as well to ~150F to soften it so you can slide in easier. And have someone help you open the shell.
Last time I molded a set (this fall) I left the towel in the oven that I place the liners on when heating them...a couple days after my wife preheats the oven to 350 to bake some stuff and the towel was black and smoking. I got yelled at. Remember to take the towel out."timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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01-23-2018, 08:15 AM #45Registered User
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01-23-2018, 08:44 AM #46Registered User
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01-23-2018, 09:08 AM #47
Nonsense. Can't even buckle my boots with uncooked power wraps. Toes feel like they will explode . Works great after cooking.
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01-23-2018, 09:25 AM #48Registered User
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Intuition keeps hanging onto this idea that shells come in half sizes. There's absolutely no difference between a 26 and 26.5 shell (or 25.5 and 26 in Scarpa), so there's no reason to bump up to a size 27 if you happen to get a 26.5 instead of a 26 shell.
Going up a liner size can work fine -- you have to be careful to avoid creases -- but a better method (like suggested above) is to use a higher volume liner. Though if you need the HV liner, you likely should buy a different shell.Last edited by auvgeek; 01-23-2018 at 09:51 AM.
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01-23-2018, 09:36 AM #49
I've never had a problem with a liner one size above the shell size--they will shrink if you heat them more than 2x.
If you don't crank the buckles down to boa constrictor mode when you mold them the MV liner fits a wide range. If you buy your shells too big, then you might need the HV. If you need HV liner you bought the wrong boots IMHO."timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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01-23-2018, 09:50 AM #50Registered User
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