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01-19-2018, 06:42 PM #1Registered User
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Dalbello Lupo 120AX - How to increase forward lean?
Coming from Titans, I feel like these Lupo's have much less forward lean, and subsequently I'm really pressuring my shins to get into that aggressive position I prefer. Once I've flexed the boot forward though, the rear walk mechanism is hovering above it's stop, and when the elastic nature of the flex-return hits, it throws me backseat much more than I'd like.
I live in the PNW and ski dense, moisture rich, sticky snow. When I'm engaged forward, and my skis hit a sticky section, I'm getting rocked into the backseat in a way my old Titans never did. Alot less confident in these at speed than my Titan's, despite more comfort, stiffer, more progressive flex etc...
How can a guy increase the forward lean?
Or is there something else I'm missing?
Thanks.
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01-19-2018, 08:45 PM #2
Dalbello Lupo 120AX - How to increase forward lean?
I drilled the cuff on my lupo carbon ti’s and screw in a spoiler from a lupo sp. put the same in my vulcans and tlt6’s. Tlt is just some random spoilers that I shaped with an exacto knife.
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01-19-2018, 11:53 PM #3
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01-20-2018, 12:29 PM #5Registered User
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01-20-2018, 12:31 PM #6Registered User
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01-20-2018, 12:44 PM #7
Dalbello Lupo 120AX - How to increase forward lean?
Not so much tighten up the calf. Same tightness with buckles adjusted for the difference. I was just getting thrown in the backseat without the forward lean spoilers like you mentioned. Allows me to stay centred and still pressuring the tongues/shins. Lupo sp comes with two options for a spoiler (thick and less thick). I’ve settled on the thinner ones but I’d use either as opposed to none
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01-20-2018, 12:53 PM #8Registered User
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01-20-2018, 10:20 PM #9
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...75#post4451075
Not the cleanest execution, but you get the idea.
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02-07-2018, 11:55 PM #10Registered User
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Turns out Dalbello spoilers are hard to come by. I ended up with a set for Kryptons and decided what the heck I'll throw them on.
Not sure about the gap in the below pic. There's a square tab on the back side of the spoiler, and it doesn't seem to fit into the cuff anywhere, is this normal?
With one in and both boots on, I can feel a slight increase in forward lean. I guess I'll try them out and see.
ETA: Not sure why the pics are sideways...
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02-08-2018, 12:27 AM #11
Nice! That’ll work. I trimmed off that raised tab with an exacto knife. Mine also don’t sit flush at the outer edges like yours. Flush when o do the buckles up so no problems
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02-15-2018, 09:50 PM #12Registered User
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Has anybody had success with punching / molding room for medial ankle bone? I've put this boot on a half dozen different people and literally 0 of them have room around the ankle bone. The fiber charged cuff will crack if you punch it. So....throw them in the oven? Thoughts?
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02-16-2018, 05:27 AM #13
Lupo are very upright....
Shim under the binding under the heel, to increase overall ramp angle of the boot binding. I doubt the spoiled will do what your looking for.
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02-16-2018, 08:29 AM #14
Funny, I don't think the ax 120 is too upright. It seems right on for me. What I do notice is that the ramp seems very flat, which I really like. Also coming off a Head Vector 120 the ax 120 seems much stiffer and supportive. Maybe it's a combination of stiffness and ramp that bother some?
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02-20-2018, 05:44 PM #15Registered User
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Sort of answered my own question here. That fiber cuff does soften up in the oven. Some people report that it will take a punch after soaking in hot water, but I opted for baking the boots at 250 F for just under 8 minutes. Use 5 mm medium or high density foam for padding tight spots. Stand in them for 10 minutes.
Of note: important to remove the tongues. I took out the boot board as well but that may be overkill.
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03-29-2018, 10:10 PM #16Registered User
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Why not just add and material to the hike mode lever? Just JB weld 3 mm of something ridgid in there, should kick you forward
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04-02-2018, 05:02 PM #17
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04-02-2018, 05:46 PM #18
That was how the Flexon worked too...
That said you permanently limit the ROM with that method.
On my forward lean shims, I laminated them with self adhesive, 1/8″ thick, closed cell EVA foam on both sides.
It does three things for my particular situation:
1) My calves are narrow and taper where they enter the boot so this sucks up some extra unneeded volume
2) The eva on the shim holds it's position relative to the cuff and liner
3) I can remove it (like the tongue) when in tour mode so I don't limit the ROM
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04-03-2018, 03:08 PM #19
i hate to be 'that guy' but altering the ramp angle/zeppa is different than modifying the boot shaft angle/delta. increasing ramp angle will only mess things up further if he can't get the ankle flexion he needs.
Do you have a tutorial and/or pics posted somewhere?Last edited by margotron; 04-16-2018 at 09:10 PM.
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04-20-2018, 09:19 AM #20Registered User
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Just to update: I mostly toured this winter, so used the boots with my Radical FT12's, which have a pretty decent ramp angle. I think due to the angle, plus the spoilers, it remedied the problem enough for me (for now).
I think I'll investigate bioicon's heel shim for next season:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/....php?p=5284364
Also, I attached my spoilers with a t nut, and didn't feel the need to remove them for touring, as the lupo's have a tonne of rear travel imo. One less thing to faff around with during change over too.
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04-21-2018, 03:47 PM #21
Where's where I've ended up. Two screws per shim. Countersunk and dremeled flush.
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09-16-2018, 12:11 PM #22Registered User
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09-16-2018, 09:08 PM #23
Chopping board? Made some nice Dynafit Radical shims with an old chopping board once. It’s was about 6mm.
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09-17-2018, 08:32 AM #24Registered User
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Cool. Am I crazy in thinking you could put a cap on the leaver to achieve something similar?
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09-17-2018, 10:18 AM #25
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