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01-18-2018, 10:37 AM #26Registered User
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this is all good to know. I grew up skiing on the east coast, was a double black skiier 20+ years ago, just now getting back into it. I was hardcore into skateboarding for about 13 years in between. My gf is a snowboarder, so I'm thinking of switching so we can ride together easier, plus I just want to try it. Hoping the ski experience combined with the skate background = faster learning curve for snowboarding
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01-18-2018, 11:09 AM #27
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01-18-2018, 11:52 AM #28
I feel like longboarding and surfing had more direct transfer to snowboarding than skiing did. Skiing helped with the leaning downhill part but surfing helped a lot with what to do with my backfoot when I learned to snowboard.
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01-18-2018, 12:04 PM #29
Yeah. In my experience, surfers pick up boarding the fastest. Skiing experience helps most by the novice already experienced in the whole world of lift serviced, cold and snowy ski hills. Also, the first thing I tell people who are moving over from skiing is what a teacher told me, that a board is just a big wide ski, with side cut and camber, so try to make it work like a big fat ski. A non skier just looks at you blankly.
Boarding is pretty easy anyway. It's the first five days that are brutal, but, once you get by that and into the ah ha stage, you're pretty much good to go. Except those long traverses. Ouch.
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01-18-2018, 12:09 PM #30
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01-18-2018, 12:12 PM #31
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01-18-2018, 01:24 PM #32
No poles means easier to eat a sandwich while boarding. But then there's this...
"The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) estimates that more than 140,000 people were treated in hospitals, doctors' offices, and emergency rooms in 2015 for skiing and snowboarding-related injuries (88,210 and 61,668 injuries, respectively). According to the review article:
• Snowboarders were three times more likely than skiers to sustain injury.
• In 1989, snowboarding injuries accounted for four percent of all snow sport-related injuries. By 1999, it made up to 56 percent of all snow sport-related injuries."
...which suggests that it may be more dangerous to eat a sandwich while boarding."timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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01-18-2018, 02:11 PM #33
Yeah, that is what we notice about snowboarders.
That they do not stop partway down, and sit around in a group in the middle of the trail... (rolls eyes sarcastically).
Dude, we are just happy that they *eventually* learn to lay their board down on its bindings when they take it off.
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01-18-2018, 09:19 PM #34
As a skier learning snowboarding now I’m comfortable with speed but too much for my boarding ability. I feel like my comfort with speed - which i got from skiing - has made me experience some really hard falls due to boarding specific reasons that I wasn’t used to.
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01-18-2018, 09:23 PM #35
Reminds me of the old joke.
How many snowboarders does it take to jump off the catwalk? 6. One to jump, and five to sit around saying, yeah, brah.
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01-18-2018, 10:31 PM #36Registered User
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01-18-2018, 11:32 PM #37
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01-19-2018, 12:22 AM #39Registered User
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01-19-2018, 12:01 PM #40
That's kind of my point too. I see most of my boarding friends who are still learning, end up wasting a good day of skiing. But when I watch my buddies who are super good at boarding it looks super fun and pretty sick. If I worked on a mountain and could ski/ride everyday then I would probably consider it a bit more
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01-19-2018, 12:19 PM #41
Most skiers either try it out of boredom, or because they have knee issues. There's a lot of former skiers riding with fucked up knees. Doesn't stress the joint as much as skiing.
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01-19-2018, 12:31 PM #42
Just remember, you're going to be much more restricted to where you can go on big mountains on a board. For instance, 80% of the East Wall at Abasin is off limits due to the fact that you just can't traverse it like a skier.
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01-19-2018, 12:35 PM #43
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01-19-2018, 12:37 PM #44Registered User
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Yeah, if you ride at shitty places with crappy snowboarders, sure. Not a whole lot of that at the bird. I've never seen a boarder blocking the cirque traverse, but plenty of skiers. Including the lady who decided to take her DPSes off last weekend and walk down the latter half of the traverse.
I'm also the only boarder in my crew, I haven't ridden with boarders in maybe a decade save for a handful of days with friends from out of state.
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01-19-2018, 12:37 PM #45
Well, yeah, that's an issue, maybe. But it's not as stressful as a bump run
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01-19-2018, 10:38 PM #46
I learned to ski as a kid, and skied from about 13-17, then switched over to snowboarding. I did that for a year and then went off to college. I also surfed at the time, and it only took me a few runs to figure out the snowboard. The biggest difference is primary weighting the front foot (which you do in surfing while coming off the top, but I started with my weight on the back foot, like you make a bottom turn, a that does not work on a snowboard too well)
A decade later I picked up snowboarding again, and a few years into that switched back to skis.
I think learning how to use the sidecut in the board translated to new ski shapes.
I was able to wiggle my way down some intense terrain on the snowboard, and that helped me know I should be able to do the same thing on skis.
At this point, I’m way better at skiing.
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01-21-2018, 06:32 PM #47
Within a dozen days on a board I was doing double and single blacks top to bottom. Granted it was at sun peaks and it was pow or crud. But, if you're athletic and you push yourself you can get good fast on s board. Having some previous skateboarding or surfing skills doesn't hurt either.
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02-08-2018, 03:05 PM #48
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02-08-2018, 08:56 PM #49Registered User
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02-21-2018, 12:37 PM #50Registered User
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Get better or not, if you can have fun on different equipment based on the snow conditions or location, then it would make sense to learn to ride all. I can ski groomers and probably gape my way down the moguls. Never skied powder but given the choice, why would I. Snowskate keeps mellow mountain and mediocre snow fun, interesting, and challenging.
There are many top level athletes doing both. Skills like picking your lines will definitely benefit when you do both.
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