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12-09-2017, 03:06 PM #1
Reliable 3 piece poles?
Putting together my spiltboard kit. What's the current crop like? Should I go collapsible or break down? I've heard BD Compactors have reliability issues. Leaning towards the Leki Tourstick Varios. Thoughts?
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12-09-2017, 04:21 PM #2
I have some of the carbon cork trekking poles from BD. They work great with some powder baskets but are a little spendy. I found that the collapsible poles with aluminum lower sections get bent too easy and end up not lasting too long. I have a pair of the carbon razor ski poles that are still going strong after 10 years.
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12-09-2017, 04:43 PM #3Rod9301
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I use the be alpin carbon fiber 3 passed part poles.
I break a section at least once a year. I'm considering fixed poles now.
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12-09-2017, 04:44 PM #4Rod9301
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Actually the bd poles, not be . Also three part, not passed.
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12-09-2017, 07:12 PM #5Registered User
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12-09-2017, 09:31 PM #6
Hmm. Don't see a 3 piece in the current razor lineup
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12-09-2017, 11:53 PM #7
The only 3 piece "ski" pole BD makes is all aluminum. They have some carbon options in the hiking/trekking poles that work great for snow, just buy a set of powder baskets to replace the tiny hiking baskets. The baskets are interchangeable between all their poles from my experience. These are what I have for a 3 piece pole.
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12-10-2017, 12:15 AM #8
I think you've pretty much got it narrowed down. What about the Aergon 3V's from Leki? I've had great luck with the Dynafit carbon 2-pc poles, but that's not what you're looking for...
Edit to add: Right, they aren't carbon.Last edited by NlytendOne; 12-10-2017 at 12:18 AM. Reason: Duh.
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12-10-2017, 09:39 AM #9Registered User
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12-10-2017, 11:05 AM #10Registered User
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no the Razor or before them the flicklock are 2 piece, but you are asking for " reliable poles " and so these are and you can buy parts from BD
IME aluminium poles be they one piece or 3 piece bend/kink/eventualy break cuz aluminium doesnt like to bend
whereas the BD's shortish aluminium upper doesnt seem to bend or kink and the carbon flexes
I expedited for a hut one season and I seen a lot of flicklocks and razors going in the heli basket, I see more of other brands nowdays but I don't know anything about themLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-10-2017, 11:12 AM #11
Well, that depends on the Al alloy. Softer alloys, e.g., 6061, will bend. Harder alloys, e.g., 7075, will crack rather than bend. BD Al alloy poles use 7000 series for the upper section, 6000 series for the lower section. The lower 6000 series section can indeed bend, sometimes so much that it won't slide fully into the upper section, although IME that's happened only per a pretty violent fall and each time we could easily bend it back into shape to continue skiing. (A wavy pole will result because the bent area work hardens a bit). The good news is that BD sells lower sections for cheap. I've used BD Traverse 2-section Al alloy poles for years, and they've worked well. I've replaced a couple lower shafts when they got too wavy to slide easily.
ETA: BD does make a 3-piece ski pole with large baskets for skiing. It's called the Expedition 3. BD also makes the Compactor, a 3-piece adjustable Z-pole technology ski pole with large baskets for skiing.
OP, why 3-piece vs. 2 piece? To tuck it in your pack?
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12-10-2017, 11:55 AM #12Registered User
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Ok some AL alloys are different than others and react different to being bent but I don't think any of them actualy like to be bent whereas falling on the Flicklocks at the ski hill, practise xc road skiing, back packing, BC skiing, I haven't replaced any carbon lowers and whatever I do to them they just spring back .
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12-10-2017, 02:54 PM #13
We had three different people on the Leki Toursticks over the last couple seasons...they've been rock-solid...I even use them as a daily pole for frontside lift-service groomer skiing when there's no fresh snow... quicky review HERE.
After trying trigger-grip (loop on special Leki glove and spring-loaded slot on the pole grip) and the strapped-grip...I keep going back to the strap grip for solid feel in my hand. I like these poles and they break down to 3 pieces small enough to go inside my daypack...handy buggers.Mass-Produced Skiers Use Mass-Produced Skis
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12-10-2017, 03:06 PM #14Registered User
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I grabbed a pair of the BCA Scepter 4s.
Had only one outing on them so can't talk about longevity, but they were decent on that one.
They deploy like a probe which is why i ended up getting them.
One time in Japan we had 3 of us touring up yotei in a storm. 3 different pole types and not one set worked properly. I really think theres a market for someone to come in and make some awesome poles and capture the market.
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12-10-2017, 07:00 PM #15
Yep, split boarder.
My reference to reliability was more in concern to locking mechanism and less in regards to material. I had a pair of Rossignol Touring Pro foldable that constantly collapsed on the first trip I took them on. Exchanged them for a pair of BD Traverse 2 section flicklocks which are great, but wont fit on or in the pack. Interesting the folks using BD trekking poles, I would have thought they'd be too fragile for 'winter sport usage'. The one Sway listed looks nice but a bit pricey.
I can get a deal on the Leki Tourstick and the BCA Sceptre 4s.
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12-11-2017, 02:45 AM #16Registered User
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+1 BD Traverse 3.
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12-11-2017, 11:39 AM #17Registered User
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For splitboarding, the poles would presumably only be used for trudging uphill, right? So the chance of bending a Alu pole seems minimal.
Also, I have older flicklocks, and they are easily adjustable (just tighten the screw until they don't collapse). I don't really use those anymore (like my funky Indigo's better), but I never had collapsing issues I couldn't fix in under a minute - flicklock seems bomber to me.
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12-12-2017, 01:19 PM #18
May also want to search for Trekking Poles- usually very little difference in the poles except not all brands come with the larger powder baskets. I have gotten the aluminum poles with the nicer flip/quick locks on sale for $13 and the regular price is probably $30. Yukon Charlie is the brand which does snowshoes and some other outdoor gear. They have regular sized baskets and the larger powder style included in the set I picked up.
There also are a number of Carbon Fiber telescoping Trekking Poles on Amazon for less than $50 - Cascade Mountain or also I've been told they show up at Costco for less than Amazon pricing. And other brands if you search around... just do not get the twist locking style.
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12-12-2017, 05:04 PM #19Registered Useless
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ehh. -2 bd traverse from me - I've sheered the aluminum, breaking it clean on two different pairs. One was a pole plant on the fucking skin track. Come on. On my third pair courtesy of bd and rei's excellent customer service, but I tour with one piece poles now.
Kinda a PITA as my pyramid tarp worked really well with the adjustable poles for winter camping tours
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12-12-2017, 06:07 PM #20Registered User
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Komperdells have worked for me over the years. I have a pair of 3-section folders (uppers are carbon and lower third is aluminum) that utilize a shock cord and threads between the sections. If the shock cord ever fails, the sections can just be screwed together. Maybe other companies do this also. Mine are only used for the up and pack down to 17" and the baskets swivel to create a small footprint in or out of pack.
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01-16-2018, 01:42 PM #21
Ended up going with the BCA Scepter 4s after returning a pair of BD Compactors (al not carbon). The Scepters and compactors have an almost identical design, but the compactors are almost comically heavy for a ski pole. Couldn't justify the extra $ for the carbon model to use only as a splitboard pole, and (on paper at least) the aluminum BCAs are a comparable weight. Like Nortonwhis mentioned, they deploy like a probe and set up quickly with no fuss. Took them for a short tour yesterday and they performed great with no issues. I'll update with a better review after a full season of use.
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01-16-2018, 02:14 PM #22Banned
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Have some cascade mtns from Costco. They come with both pow type baskets and smaller trekking baskets. I have not used them for skiing, but for a splitter that wouldnt used them on the down they would be great i think. Carbon fiber, light, 3 piece.
These are them, they were much cheaper at Costco. https://www.ebay.com/i/302589825775?chn=ps
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