The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

**gregL** · 08-17-2018, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Spyderjon

Thanks. I'd appreciate it if you could let me the widths.

Pretty sure they are offering 3 widths, but we have 100mm and 120mm on order.

**LeeLau** · 08-17-2018, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by reckless toboggan

IIRC, I read/heard that the horseshoe is a no-go.

I tried boots with Beast inserts with Shift and they released fine. However I did not do a DIN check

**TahoeJ** · 08-17-2018, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

I tried boots with Beast inserts with Shift and they released fine. However I did not do a DIN check

And of course that’s anecdotal...

I thought you were railing against the beast boots and they weren’t certified for these bindings? Or am I confused (it’s summer so that’s quite possible)?

**XavierD** · 08-18-2018, 09:59 AM

Lou is talking about beast inserts not the boots.

**TahoeJ** · 08-18-2018, 10:10 AM

Ahhh... ok, that makes sense.

**XXX-er** · 08-18-2018, 11:17 AM

I seem to remember the arms of some of those beast horseshoe inserts were a bit cockeyed & did not sit flush with the shelf on the back of the boot so the aluminum might need to be filed flush & straight, otherwise i don't see why they wouldn't work ??

**gregL** · 08-18-2018, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

I tried boots with Beast inserts with Shift and they released fine. However I did not do a DIN check

Chances of them working "fine" are probably better than with a Tecton (binding heel engages the rear tech fitting) or Kingpin (rollers designed to work with an 8mm deep heel lug), but I don't think anyone from Amer is going to say it's OK if the heel doesn't conform to ISO 9523 or ISO 5355 spec.

**LeeLau** · 08-18-2018, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

And of course that’s anecdotal...

I thought you were railing against the beast boots and they weren’t certified for these bindings? Or am I confused (it’s summer so that’s quite possible)?

Like Lou I was also talking about Beast inserts. Not boots

**LeeLau** · 08-18-2018, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by gregL

Chances of them working "fine" are probably better than with a Tecton (binding heel engages the rear tech fitting) or Kingpin (rollers designed to work with an 8mm deep heel lug), but I don't think anyone from Amer is going to say it's OK if the heel doesn't conform to ISO 9523 or ISO 5355 spec.

Definitely agree. Plus that ISO norm specified boot binding interface.. I'd assume reasonably that a Beast insert would not conform so never asked.

Regardless in the spirit of testing I have flat landed, tomahawked and ejected from Shifts using boots both with and without Beast inserts. Sometimes I even skied quadruple overhead blower pow in skis less than 90mm 8n width. And lived!

**margotron** · 08-18-2018, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

Sometimes I even skied quadruple overhead blower pow in skis less than 90mm 8n width. And lived!

you did what now?

**retirwntm** · 08-19-2018, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

Sometimes I even skied quadruple overhead blower pow in skis less than 90mm 8n width. And lived!

Were you really living though?

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**jerr** · 09-03-2018, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by gregL

Pretty sure they are offering 3 widths, but we have 100mm and 120mm on order.

I've got some 110mm brakes. I guess that's the missing width.

(Edit) Apologies: I thought we were talking about brake width.

**Spyderjon** · 09-03-2018, 05:16 AM

Just had it confirmed from Salomon that the Shift crampons are only available in 100mm & 120mm which is piss poor.

**margotron** · 09-03-2018, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Spyderjon

Just had it confirmed from Salomon that the Shift crampons are only available in 100mm & 120mm which is piss poor.

Huh. Lame

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**Gorilla** · 09-03-2018, 10:26 AM

Jon, when you get your hands on the crampons, would you mind posting the actual dimensions and seeing what sort of waist width they actually fit over?

**buttahflake** · 09-03-2018, 10:38 AM

Just got our jig at the shop. If any New England mags need a mount, pm me. I’ll let you know when I’m working.

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**Spyderjon** · 09-03-2018, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Gorilla

Jon, when you get your hands on the crampons, would you mind posting the actual dimensions and seeing what sort of waist width they actually fit over?

Will do. I'm with Salomon this Thurs so should hopefully get some answers then.

**lucknau** · 09-03-2018, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by buttahflake

Just got our jig at the shop. If any New England mags need a mount, pm me. I’ll let you know when I’m working.

Hey, would you mind measuring the dimensions on-center between holes?
Trying to verify paper template is correct.

**brown9** · 09-07-2018, 08:36 PM

Looks like these bindings are getting close, if not already, hitting retailers. Stoked to get mine

**rob stokes** · 09-08-2018, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Spyderjon

Will do. I'm with Salomon this Thurs so should hopefully get some answers then.

Do you guys sell Volkl? If so could you throw the jig over the ‘H’ mount on a pair of V werx for me?

Cheers

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**rob stokes** · 09-08-2018, 11:10 AM

I meant to quote Buttahflake there, but maybe you have a jig too Jon?

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**buttahflake** · 09-08-2018, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by lucknau

Hey, would you mind measuring the dimensions on-center between holes?
Trying to verify paper template is correct.

Sorry for late response. Those numbers are good.

**Pacman922** · 09-08-2018, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by buttahflake

Just got our jig at the shop. If any New England mags need a mount, pm me. I’ll let you know when I’m working.

where do you work?

**SupreChicken** · 09-19-2018, 09:14 AM

At work, can't search the whole thread, Apologies.

2 questions:
1) will the brakes be swappable? If yes, how much will extra brakes cost?
2) When do the crampons become available?

**westoxified** · 09-19-2018, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by SupreChicken

At work, can't search the whole thread, Apologies.

2 questions:
1) will the brakes be swappable? If yes, how much will extra brakes cost?
2) When do the crampons become available?

1) yes
2) no idea

FWIW, I ran 110mm on my QST 118s last season. it was ideal. not sure if anything changed from the version I had to now.