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  1. #651
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Thought experiment on the transitions. I've done trips where I ski 2000m vert/day for 7 days averaging fair distances of 10km+. TI would guesstimate 8-10 transitions/day. Looking back at one trip (Kokanee glacier - that's about 9 hours/day out. 10 transitions at 2 minutes extra per transition is 20 minutes.
    Thanks for the thought experiment and swag at some numbers -> this order of magnitude makes sense to me; whether or not it's an issue is definitely up to the tourist.

    TahoeJ & your additional point about mainly comparing these to bindings that require ski removal during transitions is also well taken, but I think that only applies to 50% of transitions. (and 100% to people more flexible than I)

    Cheers for the responses!

  2. #652
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    I know. The usual TGR microparsing.



    Over the long multi-day haul I can kill the average person on skins so my own personal experience is to be read in context. On a long tour the weight isn't the issue. It'll be the transitions. They take longer to transition even after lots of practise. The time I spend to strip a layer or grab a bite of food I spend farting around on transitions (a couple of minutes each time). To me and the groups I go with that time matters.
    I 100% agree with you on the efficiency. A lot of the speed is made/lost in the transitions or by having the gear very organised etc. Most people are just really inefficient.

    When on long tours, for me, the weight is going to be a problem. On shorter tours, it will probably be worth it (I hope)

  3. #653
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul View Post
    TahoeJ & your additional point about mainly comparing these to bindings that require ski removal during transitions is also well taken, but I think that only applies to 50% of transitions. (and 100% to people more flexible than I)
    I averaged it out. 3 mins or so for the up to down transition. 1 min or so for the down to up transition

  4. #654
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    I guess the only question is how many he has on rotation and at what threshold they get replaced. Hopefully it's as good as it seems.
    I only used one pair this season. I mounted them up on my QST 118's and QST 106's and rode them through the entire season. My entire MSP part was filmed on one pair of QST 118's with one pair of SHIFTS.

    For some reference, here is some of what I did this season on SHIFTS:

    Big Cornice Huck
    Really Techy No Fall Spine Line
    High Speed Triple
    Early Season Hardpack Resort Hucking

  5. #655
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    My entire MSP part was filmed on one pair of QST 118's with one pair of SHIFTS.
    #minimalism

  6. #656
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    The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    by=codytownsend"]Big Cornice Huck[/URL]
    Really Techy No Fall Spine Line
    Spicy

  7. #657
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    Cody you said you center mount all of your skis right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    I only used one pair this season. I mounted them up on my QST 118's and QST 106's and rode them through the entire season. My entire MSP part was filmed on one pair of QST 118's with one pair of SHIFTS.

    For some reference, here is some of what I did this season on SHIFTS:

    Big Cornice Huck
    Really Techy No Fall Spine Line
    High Speed Triple
    Early Season Hardpack Resort Hucking

  8. #658
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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    Cody you said you center mount all of your skis right?
    Not all of them, just the QST 118's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    Not all of them, just the QST 118's.
    Like measure tip to tail, divide by two, boot center there, center mounted?

  10. #660
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    I'm getting a pair.. thx for all the info Cody!

    Sent from my SM-G955U using TGR Forums mobile app

  11. #661
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    Yeah I think he means that... he has a video up maybe on insta about it
    Quote Originally Posted by JRainey View Post
    Like measure tip to tail, divide by two, boot center there, center mounted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    Yeah I think he means that... he has a video up maybe on insta about it
    Respekt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRainey View Post
    Like measure tip to tail, divide by two, boot center there, center mounted?
    Yup, exactly. And as Margo said, it's up on my Insta Story that's saved on the profile page. The whole mount process of the SHIFT is in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    Yup, exactly. And as Margo said, it's up on my Insta Story that's saved on the profile page. The whole mount process of the SHIFT is in fact.
    For the lazy: https://www.instagram.com/stories/hi...0164192/?hl=en

  15. #665
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    I only used one pair this season. I mounted them up on my QST 118's and QST 106's and rode them through the entire season. My entire MSP part was filmed on one pair of QST 118's with one pair of SHIFTS.

    For some reference, here is some of what I did this season on SHIFTS:

    Big Cornice Huck
    Really Techy No Fall Spine Line
    High Speed Triple
    Early Season Hardpack Resort Hucking
    Pfft, nothing you couldn't do on rando race gear.

  16. #666
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    Anyone played with the Shift and inserts? Would be nice to know screw head types and lengths if I can...If not, I'll report back in a month or so when I get my hot little hands on a pair.

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    for TGR microparsing so one can ask the same questions that have been answered before but where one is too lazy to search

    https://www.newschoolers.com/news/re...Binding-part-2

  18. #668
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    cant dig through 26 pages.. is there a mounting template floating around?

  19. #669
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    Quote Originally Posted by M3Mike02 View Post
    cant dig through 26 pages.. is there a mounting template floating around?
    Use the "Search Thread" button. This ain't rocket science.

    If you're too lazy too, why should someone else.

  20. #670
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    I wasnt aware you could just search only within the thread.

    go fuck yourself.

    http://www.skipass.com/forums/sports...0.html#3361404

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    Not gonna lie, I also didn't know there was a search thread button.

  22. #672
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    me neither

    thanx asshole
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    me neither

    thanx asshole
    Welcome!

  24. #674
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    Hey folks, just a heads up, the Shift is now available for preorder on our site:
    https://www.evo.com/alpine-touring-s...slab-shift-mnc

    Cheers,

  25. #675
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    Quote Originally Posted by evo View Post
    Hey folks, just a heads up, the Shift is now available for preorder on our site:
    https://www.evo.com/alpine-touring-s...slab-shift-mnc

    Cheers,
    You registered in 2011, made your first post last month, and this is your second post?
    . . .

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