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11-28-2018, 06:14 PM #1051Registered User
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For any shop techs or riders that have had a shop mount - Where does the heel end up on the track when you drill with the Salomon jig? I ordered the wrong size drill bit (FYI the new Bent Chetlers spec a 4.1mm x 9mm bit), and in the interest of time I was thinking of just taking them to a shop rather than waiting until next week for a new bit.
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11-28-2018, 06:18 PM #1052
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11-28-2018, 06:28 PM #1053Registered User
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Thanks. Is it a pain in the ass if I ask the tech to put the toe in the jig's normal spot but drill the heel 5mm forward of normal? I was planning on doing that for my mount. My boots have a relatively long BSL for their size, and I don't want to run out of track if I ever switch to a brand with a shorter BSL.
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11-28-2018, 06:35 PM #1054
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11-29-2018, 10:03 AM #1055Registered User
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Thanks, TahoeJ. Which sole blocks do you use?
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11-29-2018, 10:39 AM #1056
These are the 2017 with the hybrid toes/heels so just the standard. Got tired of swapping on the previous model.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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11-29-2018, 10:39 AM #1057
If you're comfortable with not having an "official" ski bit:
3.6mm bit = 9/64"
4.1 mm = #20 bit
https://www.engineersedge.com/drill_sizes.htm
Lowes, Home Depot, etc.
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11-29-2018, 11:32 AM #1058Registered User
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11-29-2018, 11:44 AM #1059
Yeah, slow and steady. Better to underestimate than overestimate your skills.
A 2x4 for practice is your friend. Of course it won't teach you how to control drilling depth. It's good for validating templates, and getting cute with moving heels fore/aft of the recommended point (what you're interested in).
What it won't teach you is drilling and tapping through the actual materials.
When you're ready, it might not be a bad idea to find junk skis that a shop is tossing in the garbage.
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11-29-2018, 11:52 AM #1060
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11-29-2018, 03:14 PM #1061
FYI, I mounted a pair of Shifts for La Sportiva Synchros last night and they release tested on the high side of the ranges but they were good. I was pleasantly surprised.
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11-30-2018, 09:42 PM #1062Registered User
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Jumping back at bit here. I may be crazy here but what appears to be the most recent paper template did not work for me. During my test mount the rear most screws on the toe piece (the pair that are separated by 30mm were 71mm behind the screws that were 40mm apart. The the front hole and the 40mm hole set worked well together. The 30mm set was 71mm back but no where near the holes for the bindings.
I measured the bottom of the bindings and got 83mm between the 30mm set and the 40 mm set. I altered the template and mounted without issue and the boot center still worked out fine.
I would definitely do a test mount prior to drilling. If the 71mm distance doesn't work for you check at 83mm.
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11-30-2018, 09:54 PM #1063Registered User
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So I think XavierD and others were correct in diagnosing my problems. Paid close attention and I can say with a fairly high degree of certainly that my flipping out of walk mode situation is being cause by ...well me, more specifically me catching the break with my opposite foot. Between this 'feature' and the single, 10 degree heel riser, I think the Shifts will help me improve my skinning technique
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11-30-2018, 10:02 PM #1064Registered User
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yeah that single riser doesn't really leave you any option but to get better at your form and terrain choice.
Have about 6 days on mine at this point. summary so far is: they ski fucking awesome and tour better than Kingpins or frame but just ok. Brake does pop out of hike mode randomly.
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11-30-2018, 10:34 PM #1065Registered User
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The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA
I don’t think you’re installing correctly. The 30mm screws should not be visible once you’re finished. The 83mm you mention is the approximate distance between the 30mm and the 40mm screws before the entire toe is slid backward to lock onto the front screw/post. After the toe is slid backward the 30mm screws will be hidden under the AFD, the drilled holes for the 40mm screws will become visible, and those holes will be 71mm from the now hidden 30mm screws.
I am test mounting mine tomorrow to double-check, but those measurements align when measuring the binding itself.
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11-30-2018, 10:34 PM #1066Registered User
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11-30-2018, 10:45 PM #1067
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11-30-2018, 10:50 PM #1068
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12-01-2018, 11:54 AM #1069Registered User
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Did my first tour on them today and didnt experience brakes popping out of hike mode, 100mm brake / 104mm ski. Actually tried to see if i could make it happen and could not, my brake seems pretty well tucked. Not saying your doing anything wrong, just sharing my experience
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12-01-2018, 01:49 PM #1070Registered User
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Did my test mount today. Template is spot on. They only thing I’m unsure on is the AFD height. Dalbello boots/GripWalk sole. I seem to be at the bottom of the AFD’s range (screw won’t turn anymore), but I can only slide the folded paper partially under the toe. Is this correct, or should it slide freely under the whole toe?
Picture of the paper at its stopping point:
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12-01-2018, 02:25 PM #1071
^ Should be using the gauge across the white teflon AFD.
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12-01-2018, 02:29 PM #1072Registered User
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12-01-2018, 02:33 PM #1073
You need to aggressively pull up on the toe of the boot. There is a huge amount of space between the wing and boot lug in the photo
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12-01-2018, 02:37 PM #1074
Should be so that you can just pull the paper out without it tearing. Shouldn't be able to slide it in.
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12-01-2018, 03:04 PM #1075Registered User
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