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    S/Lab Shift MNC Secondary Thread

    News is set to drop by week end. Will update title when it is officially named

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BcUyV0FB...salomonfreeski

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BcUyV0FB...salomonfreeski
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    I hope they suck less balls than the STH2's. But I heard you like ball sucking, so there's that.

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    Heeeere's Jonny

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    is that a binding that works with alpine or tech?

    sheesh that'd be nice...

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    New Salomon Binding Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Shredly von Whiplash View Post
    is that a binding that works with alpine or tech?

    sheesh that'd be nice...
    I'd assume so. Hopefully itís all of them - alpine, WTR, Grip Walk, etc.
    Last edited by burrito; 12-05-2017 at 05:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burrito View Post
    I'd assume so. Hopefully its all of them - alpine, WTR, Grip Walk, etc.
    I can't see Salomon certifying something for GripWalk when it competes directly against their norm (WTR). But Alpine, WTR, Touring certified would be dope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredly von Whiplash View Post
    is that a binding that works with alpine or tech?
    or.. that doesn't really work for either.
    Let's see. fingers crossed.

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    Looks like there are pins involved (unsurprisingly) https://www.instagram.com/p/BcXW7w3h...salomonfreeski

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    Interesting, so the toe bumper position is what determines if the toe is on the pins or behind them. Or the arms move forward and back instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judo Chop! View Post
    or.. that doesn't really work for either.
    Definitely the most likely outcome. Not the biggest salomon fan but hey I hope they nail this one. Def not in line for the first year version

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    To be fair to Salomon -- they make about the best frame binding out there. And their first tech binding -- the MTN -- has been getting good reactions for the combo of features and weight.

    Of course, this binding is way more out there. But at least they're pushing the envelope.

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    I bet it's going to be similar to the tecton/vipec heel action, but on the toe and heel. Where the toe has pins for skinning, and then for ski mode a piece slides over the welt and clamps down on it and releases the lock on the pins. Then the pins don't do any of the holding force (though still engaged), just the piece that slides over so it can provide lateral release. Obviously this would only work on boots with a good sized welt (I don't know what the ISO 9523 specs for that are). Anyways complete guess, probably useful rambling, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    I can't see Salomon certifying something for GripWalk when it competes directly against their norm (WTR). But Alpine, WTR, Touring certified would be dope.
    Actually they do now, the Warden 13 is MNC and accommodates Gripwalk. With Look now accepting GW along with WTR, Salomon is the only one holding solely to WTR...it is a shame. These brands need to go with just one design but that is a subject for another thread.
    Click. Point. Chute.

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    Pins, alpine heel, rotating toe? Like a Beast toe, but Kingpin heel?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejongiest View Post
    I bet it's going to be similar to the tecton/vipec heel action, but on the toe and heel. Where the toe has pins for skinning, and then for ski mode a piece slides over the welt and clamps down on it and releases the lock on the pins. Then the pins don't do any of the holding force (though still engaged), just the piece that slides over so it can provide lateral release. Obviously this would only work on boots with a good sized welt (I don't know what the ISO 9523 specs for that are). Anyways complete guess, probably useful rambling, whatever.
    This is an absolutely brilliant idea. Hope youíre right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Pins, alpine heel, rotating toe? Like a Beast toe, but Kingpin heel?
    No - better. Official release goes out tomorrow.

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    Idunno, a binding that duz too many things is usually a fail.

    Sticking to Dfits/Ions for travel, Solly/Looks for alpinez
    Do not count the days

    Make the days count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejongiest View Post
    I bet it's going to be similar to the tecton/vipec heel action, but on the toe and heel. Where the toe has pins for skinning, and then for ski mode a piece slides over the welt and clamps down on it and releases the lock on the pins. Then the pins don't do any of the holding force (though still engaged), just the piece that slides over so it can provide lateral release. Obviously this would only work on boots with a good sized welt (I don't know what the ISO 9523 specs for that are). Anyways complete guess, probably useful rambling, whatever.
    I don't think you can have pins engaged AND toepiece clamping the welt in ski mode, unless you can adjust the toe height and fore-aft of the binding welt clamp. Tech inserts aren't always in the same place in relation to the welt.

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    It also better weight under 500 grams and be all metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottyb View Post
    Idunno, a binding that duz too many things is usually a fail.

    Sticking to Dfits/Ions for travel, Solly/Looks for alpinez
    Me too. Trying to have a one quiver binding, and more importantly boot, just didn't get it done for me.

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    Huge posse of skiers on these up at Alta today. Yesterday they had what looked like an industry demo. I took a quick look at binding, was promptly told no pics. Looks cool. Pins aren't engaged for downhill at all. Lifters looked a bit weird. Didn't really get to see how heel moves. They definitely have potential. I'm only skeptical because I feel like salomon alpine bindings have a short life span. Crew that was skiing them today was definitely trying to ski them hard. I hope they weren't any sponsored athletes cause they sure weren't making it look very good. But I did see 1 guy land a back seat 3 without exploding

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    Finally, toe pins on wings instead of yoke. Stoked.

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