The Dynastar Thread

**roQer** · 02-16-2019, 12:31 PM

If anybody likes to renew this feeling again...
https://www.sports-aventure.fr/la-gl...legend-14.html

**Chugachjed** · 02-16-2019, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by roQer

If anybody likes to renew this feeling again...
https://www.sports-aventure.fr/la-gl...legend-14.html

Do they ship to the US?

**waxman** · 02-16-2019, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by roQer

If anybody likes to renew this feeling again...
https://www.sports-aventure.fr/la-gl...legend-14.html

how the hell do they still have any in stock? its like 8-10 years old?

**roQer** · 02-16-2019, 01:55 PM

I don’t know anything about this offer. Just stumbled upon it on the web page of the shop. The shop is legit. They have good prices for some stuff. You have to contact them directly regarding shipping.

**Island Bay** · 02-16-2019, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

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They look better in person, graphic is kinda growing on me.

Race room skis... made in France, came with some nicely structured bases, thick coat of obviously hot boxed wax, beautifully sharp edges and perfectly true base. FKNA so stoked to have a brand new pair of my favorite ski.

For those waiting/asking... soon my friends.

It's summer in NZ, and I'm happily surfing my arse off, and not thinking much about skiing (yes, with some solid distractions, this is possible). This, however, makes my heart sing, and makes me long for NZ winter and Craigieburn and my Pro Riders.

**gwat** · 02-17-2019, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

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Daaaaammmn.

Still same as the OG or are they tweaking it?

**nyskirat** · 02-18-2019, 06:42 PM

Blister with a ProTo review

https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-proto-factory

**TAFKALVS** · 02-18-2019, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by gwat

Daaaaammmn.

Still same as the OG or are they tweaking it?

It's pretty much the same ski, maybe a tad more tip rocker? but that might just be because my old pair probably has 150+ days and has lost camber/flex.

Originally Posted by nyskirat

Blister with a ProTo review

https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-proto-factory

I think the Blister Review is pretty solid, however I find the Proto to be a lot of work in tracked up heavy coastal type snow and bumped up crud. I think it's an awesome ski in Interior/lower water content snow. I think the huge amount of tip taper moves the sidecut back to too far in heavy coastal snow making it hard to trust the tip when blasting through crud, thus making you ski more upright, thus making you fight the stiff underfoot and tail flex and smoking your quads.

It really really likes speed and doesn't respond well to slow skiing.

That said I think the ski is awesome and have a lot of fun on them, especially in untracked lower density pow in an open bowl/pillow line, etc. If you have room to let them run a little and keep the tips pointed downhill they are really easy to ski. But at a place like Alpental where slow measured skiing is often required they can kind of beat you up.

**cinnepa** · 02-19-2019, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by nyskirat

Blister with a ProTo review

https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-proto-factory

do they ever have "adult-sized" reviewers?

**nyskirat** · 02-19-2019, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by cinnepa

do they ever have "adult-sized" reviewers?

I like their dimensions since it's where I fall

I do think they have one or two reviewers who are 6'+ and 200lb+ as well.

**TAFKALVS** · 02-19-2019, 12:07 PM

I'm 200lbs and have no desire to ski a bigger than 189 Proto, at least here in the PNW. It's plenty of ski.

**2FUNKY** · 02-19-2019, 12:43 PM

I’m close to 200lbs nekkid and echo LVS sentiments. Plenty of ski. Tips were impossible to sink in 35” of blower. Opened them up in chop and on groomers and they were plenty beefy.

**toast2266** · 02-19-2019, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

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They look better in person, graphic is kinda growing on me.

Race room skis... made in France, came with some nicely structured bases, thick coat of obviously hot boxed wax, beautifully sharp edges and perfectly true base. FKNA so stoked to have a brand new pair of my favorite ski.

For those waiting/asking... soon my friends.

192 only? Or will there be a 187 for us smaller people?

**TAFKALVS** · 02-19-2019, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by toast2266

192 only? Or will there be a 187 for us smaller people?

192, as explained to me, "It's the Pro Rider"

**toast2266** · 02-19-2019, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

192, as explained to me, "It's the Pro Rider"

Dang. I guess I need a "wannabe pro rider."

My 187 XXL's are perfect. But I spend way too much time in tight-ish trees to really want a 192.

**nyskirat** · 02-19-2019, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by toast2266

Dang. I guess I need a "wannabe pro rider."

My 187 XXL's are perfect. But I spend way too much time in tight-ish trees to really want a 192.

I don't think anyone would ever want to take the Pro Riders into trees, regardless of length. They're just not meant for small(ish) turns nor are they particularly good in fresh snow (they're adequate but there are a lot of other skis that are more fun).

**toast2266** · 02-19-2019, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by nyskirat

I don't think anyone would ever want to take the Pro Riders into trees, regardless of length. They're just not meant for small(ish) turns nor are they particularly good in fresh snow (they're adequate but there are a lot of other skis that are more fun).

I guess I'm doing it wrong, because I love my XXL's in tight trees when the snow isn't deep. Straight sidecut + decently stiff means they smear around super easy. I liked them better in tight spots than my fully rockered Cochises. And that's why they're so great - fun in tight trees, but equally awesome going fast in open spots.

**nyskirat** · 02-19-2019, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by toast2266

I guess I'm doing it wrong, because I love my XXL's in tight trees when the snow isn't deep. Straight sidecut + decently stiff means they smear around super easy. I liked them better in tight spots than my fully rockered Cochises. And that's why they're so great - fun in tight trees, but equally awesome going fast in open spots.

To each his own.

I've taken the Pro Riders through some tight areas and needless to say, it was a lot of work and something I'd prefer not to do on a consistent basis.

It's definitely possible to ski them in those places but if I had to choose between them or a ski like the Peacemaker/anything with some slight tail rocker, I'd take that 10x/10x.

**Jaxson** · 02-19-2019, 01:35 PM

XXL's one of my go to for many years. Got on the OG 194's then tried 187s when they came out. Seemed too short and sold the 187 and got a backup 194.
Then the 194 felt a bit much and went back to 187 and settled there. Seems like the 192 Pro Rider may be a sweet spot for me on length.

**Chugachjed** · 02-19-2019, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by nyskirat

I don't think anyone would ever want to take the Pro Riders into trees, regardless of length. They're just not meant for small(ish) turns nor are they particularly good in fresh snow (they're adequate but there are a lot of other skis that are more fun).

Lies. All lies.

**nyskirat** · 02-19-2019, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Lies. All lies.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong then

**2FUNKY** · 02-19-2019, 11:13 PM

Skied the x106 at BBI Alpental this last weekend. Really put them through the gamut. Skied mine 1.5 days. Knee deep cascade pow, wind packed pow, groomers, chopped pow, ice.
Man did they deliver and surprise me in a very good way.
I mounted them on the line and heavily detuned the tails from where the taper starts all the way back with a file and smoothed them with a gummy. I then took a file to the tips. Started at the taper locations with the file then went 2” into the side cut with the gummy.
Never had to adjust the tune/de tune from there. Perfect.
Zero hook from the ski and it let me make any turn shape I wanted. They never forced me into that 19m radius. I was able to lay down 30+ meter carves easily or shorten them up. Groomer performance is amazing and super fun, hip dragging fun.
Pow: man these things performed way better than expected. Couldn’t sink the tips. Tails release with ease. Not super surfy but better than expected for 106. Don’t do anything ya don’t tell them to.
Chopped pow: I’m a huge fan of bullet shaped tips, hence my love affair with the Lhasa. These look like a slimmer Lhasa and ski very much the same. They just slice through the chop clearing a path for the rest of the ski. In the heavier snow, heavier than I’m accustomed to, the tip seemed a little soft. I could feel some slight deflection and speed. Nothing crazy but noticeable. That softer tip flex helps the pow performance though.
Bumps and air: man are they easy and fun in the bumps. Nice flex pattern and light in the air. Fun the zipper line then air a few then zipper line again. They are light in the air and very balanced. Stomp landings well. Nothing huge, only an 8’er sent.
This ski could easily be a quiver of one type ski. Matter of fact, mine are getting a sth cast setup and it’s looking the only ski I’m taking to Europe. It’s just a really easy ski to ski yet so far can haul ass. Granted I haven’t been able to really open them up in bigger terrain, just on groomers albeit pretty beat up groomers that they handled the firm pushed up piles with aplomb.
This ski has a shit load of potential and is the ski I wanted Splat to make the 187 FAT into.
If Dynastar took this ski and put a mid 20’s radius on it with some metal to stiffen it up, sumbeech they would have one badass ski. Maybe even make it in a 192, drool.
I mounted mine on the line with sth16’s and really like the ski there.
If you have overlooked this ski, you really need to get on it.

**Norseman** · 02-19-2019, 11:21 PM

extra chocolate for using the word "aplomb"

**Vitamin I** · 02-20-2019, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Jaxson

XXL's one of my go to for many years. Got on the OG 194's then tried 187s when they came out. Seemed too short and sold the 187 and got a backup 194.
Then the 194 felt a bit much and went back to 187 and settled there. Seems like the 192 Pro Rider may be a sweet spot for me on length.

When I skied the 191cm Movement Goliath, I thought it would be perfect for someone who wished the 194 XXL was a few cm shorter. Used Goliaths sell for about $100...consider giving them a try.

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**reckless toboggan** · 02-20-2019, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Vitamin I

When I skied the 191cm Movement Goliath, I thought it would be perfect for someone who wished the 194 XXL was a few cm shorter. Used Goliaths sell for about $100...consider giving them a try.

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My 191 Goliaths are the only reason I'm not aggressively seeking the new 192 Legends. Such a good ski.