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  1. #3276
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    OK I k ow they just launched some new skis, but the social media push of all the skimo racing is watering down the vibe. I hope they start giving us more Reine and Megan soon.
    "Let's be careful out there."

  2. #3277
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    I got out on the 182 M-Free 108s. Although they measure the same as the 185 M-Free 99, they feel shorter. The 182 108s want to pop and slash but are less stable and locked into carved turns than the 185 99s. The skis feel like theyre from the same family but have distinct characteristics, such that owning both is reasonable. My 192 108s also arent going anywhere; the 182s will be fun on smaller terrain and storm day, but Im not sure Id want to be on them on a big Whistler day skiing in the alpine.

    In terms of how much ski each is, I would say the 185 99 slots in between the 182 and 192 108s. It approximates that hypothetical 187 108 a few of us would like to see.

  3. #3278
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    Speed, precision, and stomping it.

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  4. #3279
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    Quote Originally Posted by D(C) View Post

    185 99 slots in between the 182 and 192 108s. It approximates that hypothetical 187 108 a few of us would like to see.
    That was my sense as well. Punched above their weight in 8" with obviously a lot of the same mannerisms executed a hair more quickly. Shop guy tried talking me out of them saying they're underpowered vs 108. I say bullshit it's like the same ski with a haircut

  5. #3280
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    The Dynastar Thread

    About 8-12 of PNW powder (slightly dense but definitely soft) today and picked the 192 MFree108 while my buddies skied their BGs. Not for a minute did I feel under-gunned. In fact, my buddy said, I think you have the perfect tool for today.

    These let me charge but are so easy to slash and scrub speed. When its soft, the MFree is hard to top!!
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  6. #3281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    About 8-12 of PNW powder (slightly dense but definitely soft) today and picked the 192 MFree108 while my buddies skied their BGs. Not for a minute did I feel under-gunned. In fact, my buddy said, I think you have the perfect tool for today.

    These let me charge but are so easy to slash and scrub speed. When its soft, the MFree is hard to top!!
    Have you skied your 118/pr-oto yet? I'd be curious for a comparison.

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  7. #3282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    About 8-12 of PNW powder (slightly dense but definitely soft) today and picked the 192 MFree108 while my buddies skied their BGs. Not for a minute did I feel under-gunned. In fact, my buddy said, I think you have the perfect tool for today.

    These let me charge but are so easy to slash and scrub speed. When its soft, the MFree is hard to top!!
    I skied my BGs until about 11AM in about 10-14 on Hood and then switched to the Mfree 108. It handles the crud and the heavier (sun effected) afternoon untracked too.
    "Let's be careful out there."

  8. #3283
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    Demoed the rep's pair of MFree108 192 today and will give some more thoughts later. DDing the Woodsman110 192 for the last couple seasons and working PT in a shop I've been trying to get on as many skis as I can lately including:
    Revolt 114 191 - too stiff, lacked any suspension, dead feeling
    Kastle 108 191 - for how soft these are, really liked these skis, held an edge nicely while being playful, Gen Z line is still quite far back, -11, so imagined that these were more twin with 3 cms lopped off the tail
    Atomic Maverick 105 (Protos-very different than current Mav construction)
    Maybe Blank 194 or Sender 194 next
    Still have an unmounted pair of current Mindbender 108 193 sitting at home

    Had a blast today on the MFrees but wish the sizing came in something like a 194/187/180 or 194/186/178 spread. Just a tad longer/more material and I would be all over this ski, either that or ON3P needs to add some taper to the tail of the Woodsman. As much as I like the ON3P blend of heft, damping and poppiness, they lack in edge grip and these Dynastars have more although did get deflected a touch more.

    I can definitely see how peeps compliment these to BGs although they ski more like the 189 Asym than the current 192.

  9. #3284
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    Love my asym bg's , bg 110 tours for touring, and my mfree99 so i guess im most curious on a mfree 108, stock bg 110 , stock wd 110 and new praxis mvp 108. Praxis and on3p bases are certainly faster and more durable than my mfree 99

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  10. #3285
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    Just mounted these puppies, will be my first time skiing the LP105/M-Pro 105 this weekend! Looking forward to the crud-busting ability, but a little worried about the traditional mount point... as I'm used to mounts closer to -6 to -8

  11. #3286
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    LP105 mount point: Im thinking of moving mine forward 1-2cm. Anybody else done this and has good results?

  12. #3287
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    LP105 mount point: I’m thinking of moving mine forward 1-2cm. Anybody else done this and has good results?
    Blister likes them +1, Friflyt also says -13 is the center of the sidecut so based on what Marshal has shared you can easily go +2. I have mine at rec due to hole conflicts, but I’d go +1 if I could.

  13. #3288
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    I think @arild has also mentioned he thinks they're good at +1 and +2.

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  14. #3289
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    Yeah, mine are currently at +3, works extremely well there. No other place to mount them, due to an extreme amount of holes in them. Same applies for Big Dumps; +3 makes the skis a whole lot more versatile and intuitive than on the line. Still -12 or something, hah.

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  15. #3290
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    With all the constant discussion on the 182 vs 192 Mfree, I thought Id chime in with a thought.

    The perfect in-between, maybe better than the theoretical 187 Mfree would be, is the 186cm Nordica unleashed 108.

    I skied the 182 Mfree, and even after reviews I had no interest in a 192. The unleashed is amazing.

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    Yeah, Dynastar could have cannibalized the market decades ago by sizing their skis appropriately. But they are also Rossignol.

    Just view it as one conglomerate and the weird sizes make more sense,

    If a 187[anything] existed, Rossingol wouldn't.

  17. #3292
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    Yeah, Dynastar could have cannibalized the market decades ago by sizing their skis appropriately. But they are also Rossignol.

    Just view it as one conglomerate and the weird sizes make more sense,

    If a 187[anything] existed, Rossingol wouldn't.
    If Rossignol would add a little more splay to the Sender skis, theyd also sell a ton more. They should hire us as part of their product team!
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  18. #3293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber Joe View Post
    With all the constant discussion on the 182 vs 192 Mfree, I thought Id chime in with a thought.

    The perfect in-between, maybe better than the theoretical 187 Mfree would be, is the 186cm Nordica unleashed 108.

    I skied the 182 Mfree, and even after reviews I had no interest in a 192. The unleashed is amazing.
    The MFree108 is such a good ski! Probably the best ski in the Dynastar lineup if you get to soft snow often.

    The Nordica Unleashed 108 has really grown on me, too. Its not nearly as loose and pivoty as the MFree, but it also handles firmer conditions better. My 108 quiver this year (yeah a bit of overkill) has been K108, Unleashed 108, and Mfree108moving progressively from firm and variable to soft and deep. The Unleashed has been a good fit for those in between days when there is enough firm stuff that an MFree is a bit lacking but a K108 is overkill.
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