The Dynastar Thread

**AEvospace** · 08-20-2021, 12:25 PM

I want to know why Dynastar always lists these beasts at 2400g/ski.

**bry** · 08-20-2021, 12:47 PM

I always get a kick out of that too.

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**detrusor** · 08-20-2021, 05:34 PM

Never weighed mine….what do they weigh?

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**bry** · 08-20-2021, 05:49 PM

Mine weigh 2664/2660g

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**nickwm21** · 08-21-2021, 10:36 AM

They are over 9lbs per foot if you mount an all metal binding….

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**AEvospace** · 08-21-2021, 12:47 PM

Lightweight. Compared to 196 Motherships.

What were the heaviest 2000s skis?

**detrusor** · 08-21-2021, 01:17 PM

I had 185 motherships w dukes. Soooo heavy. Wish I bought longer

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**Bandit Man** · 08-21-2021, 07:19 PM

The 193 Nordica Helldorado was 2,700-grams per ski…

**jackattack** · 08-21-2021, 07:42 PM

Fucking 190 Q-labs. Don’t even know have exact numbers but they measured 187 and weighed way more than the LPR.

**snowaddict91** · 08-21-2021, 08:15 PM

My 183 Cham 107s were something like 200+ grams heavier than a 186 bodacious. With p18s they were...not light.

**ZomblibulaX** · 08-21-2021, 08:45 PM

Fuck, what wasn't heavy as hell in the '00's?

XXLs, Big Dumps, Cham 127s('14?) from dynastar
Rossi 194 squads, sc 108s, rc 112s
Moships, el dictators, helldo's, big daddy's, im 103's, big stix 106, Solly rockers, everything wide weighed as much as a Volkswagen.

None of this faffing about and shmarving everywhere. Thank god for clown shoes.

**abraham** · 08-21-2021, 09:55 PM

Fuck, forgot how much solly rockers weighed.

**roQer** · 08-22-2021, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by kicool

Can the mfree 108 192 charge as hard in soft variable as the rustler 11 192? I skied the mfree 118 this year (great pow ski) and missed the gas pedal and stomping platform of the 192 rustler 11.

I own both. MF192 charges definitely as hard as R11 192 in soft variable, might be even slightly better. R11 better in deeper pow, though. MF192 better on anything harder and overall more versatile.

sf · 08-22-2021, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by AEvospace

Lightweight. Compared to 196 Motherships.

What were the heaviest 2000s skis?

According to FriFlyt a few years back:
Bluehouse Shoots @3130, while Monster 103s were the heaviest relative to size

**gaijin** · 08-22-2021, 05:11 AM

I can’t believe I was considering buying those shoots… for Japan.

I bought the Maven as a cheap throw-away intro to five-point skis.

I hated everything about that ski. The running length. The softness. The width. The fact it folded in half. It couldn’t finish a turn. It was like surfing on cardboard.

I hated that ski while I loved it for teaching me how to ski powder sideways.

I wonder what the shoots would have taught me.

Anyone want a Maven? Buyer pays shipping. Only.

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**tuco** · 08-22-2021, 06:28 AM

Gold Maven rules. Period. One of the funnest skis in my quiver. Gold Maven(2nd gen) were not soft. I'm 6'2" 220# w/out gear and I've never folded mine. I use mine for spring schmoo too. I still ski mine. LOVE that fuckin ski.

**AEvospace** · 08-22-2021, 09:34 AM

I don't think I've skied anything over 2800g. Holy grail territory if those skis can get little loose without losing any predictability.

**AEvospace** · 08-24-2021, 07:08 PM

How do the 192 MFree108s compare to the 190 Wildcats(108 or 118), in terms of stability?

**ZomblibulaX** · 08-24-2021, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by gaijin

I can’t believe I was considering buying those shoots… for Japan.

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/59326053

I bet he'd take $50 for em. Now you just gotta get em to Japan.

I hope Tuco is right that the Maven had a better iteration, the one I skied was fucking abominable. But that was when we were all still DD'ing shit like 194 XXL's and Blizzard Titan Pro's and Monster 103's. Good times, murdering the mountain.

**AEvospace** · 08-24-2021, 09:50 PM

What happened? Did everyone get soft? Or is the new generation of hardcore skiers just smaller people in general?.. I always find the good skiers I meet to be smaller than larger, on average. Most larger folk I know suck shit, but obviously not all.

It seems like all the good big skiers got old. Most of the kids I see flipping around Squaw, way fucken better than me that's for sure, are smaller/thinner folk. They can rip around on QST 106 like me on LP105? I'm studying physics, who here is better at this and can explain this? I need some more applied in my realm.

**XavierD** · 08-24-2021, 09:57 PM

Skis got wider. Skiing changed. Backcountry became a thing, people realized with rocker and new shapes and constructions skiing didn’t have to be hard to be fun. Skis don’t need to be dumb stiff to hold an edge anymore either. So basically skis got better…

None of those 10lb 40m side cut skis were actually that fun compared to most modern skis. They are fun to take out every so often but honestly you’re gonna have more fun on an M-Free 108 than an M-Pro 105 90% of the time. All the traits which made a 90-105mm wide skis not totally suck in crud aren’t really needed on a 110-120mm skis.

**AEvospace** · 08-24-2021, 10:02 PM

The man himself!

I find skis like that extremely fun for smashing ANYTHING without the ski folding. However, I do notice every year I get older now, it get's harder to ski them. NVM injuries added to the mix.

Still so much fun though. LP105 definitely in this category, but come on, no one makes a ski like this anymore. Like WTF HEAD!? 40m is way too much. 25-30 is plenty IMO.

Skis that do everything are great too, but I like skis that excel at blasting and nothing else.

There's got to be some money in it, just a little.

**gaijin** · 08-25-2021, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/59326053

I bet he'd take $50 for em. Now you just gotta get em to Japan.

I hope Tuco is right that the Maven had a better iteration, the one I skied was fucking abominable. But that was when we were all still DD'ing shit like 194 XXL's and Blizzard Titan Pro's and Monster 103's. Good times, murdering the mountain.

Yeah, that's a whole truckload of Fuck That for the Shoots.

And yeah, I hope Tuco's iteration (2nd Gen?) of the Mavens keeps him happy. Us First-Get purchasers were in it for the trial. Glad to have contributed. Unfortunately, if you treat your V1 buyers as testers, your company will fail. That said, I appreciate the opportunity to buy a test product for cheap to teach me what I should have been buying in my next purchase.

It's a win-win. Bluehouse was a fake company that taught a lot of skiers what they wanted to learn.

Thankfully, Praxis, 4FRNT, ON3P, Moment, Prior, weren't so foolish.

All of that said... in this thread... Why don't I own an M-Pro Rider yet?

Because it's only offered in one length, and the marketing has led me to believe that it's out of my league. Example A of ski manufacturer shooting itself in the foot. I don't want an MF108 182. I've wanted an M-Pro Rider in 186 for fifteen years.

Surely, I'm not alone. Maybe Philpug can pull his Pivot 15 clout in this direction. Get us smaller folk a ridable rig.

**waxoff** · 08-25-2021, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by gaijin

Because it's only offered in one length, and the marketing has led me to believe that it's out of my league. Example A of ski manufacturer shooting itself in the foot. I don't want an MF108 182. I've wanted an M-Pro Rider in 186 for fifteen years.

You found the 184 too short? I sold two new 184 pairs recently (post #650 in this thread) You could've jumped on those!