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  1. #101
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    Hand fucked the mythics and the LP106's in the local shop last night, I thought I was done wanting more skis this year...

    I used to the the AD LP105's in 192 and they were missiles, I just found them a bit too sluggish for my liking though.
    I Came, I Saw, I .... Made A Slight Effort & Then Went Home For Lunch.

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyskirat View Post
    All I can say is these fuckers are heavy. Like carrying a race ski.

    Edit:

    Can someone tell me what is supposed to mark the recommended line?

    Is it that slight rise on the topsheet near the edge?
    Yes.

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I dunno man, I always want more tip than less. I don't think I've ever purposely moved my bindings forward of the line. Can't help you on that one unfortunately.
    Thanks. Choice is to hang them up or give a try at +2.5. Will report back in a week or two.

  4. #104
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    Considering the new LegendX 106 mounted with a pr of Tectons for here in the Jackson/Targhee area as a 70/30 resort/pass setup. Leaning towards the 188s(5'11 ~185lbs). Thoughts??

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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravityDT View Post
    Considering the new LegendX 106 mounted with a pr of Tectons for here in the Jackson/Targhee area as a 70/30 resort/pass setup. Leaning towards the 188s(5'11 ~185lbs). Thoughts??

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    I'd say the 188 is the way to go, personally. What other skis are you on currently?

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravityDT View Post
    Considering the new LegendX 106 mounted with a pr of Tectons for here in the Jackson/Targhee area as a 70/30 resort/pass setup. Leaning towards the 188s(5'11 ~185lbs). Thoughts??

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    You have me by an inch and have you by 10lbs. Personally I would go 188 all day. I like longer skis, 188 is not that long though, so ymmv.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I'd say the 188 is the way to go, personally. What other skis are you on currently?
    185 Zero G 108s

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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravityDT View Post
    185 Zero G 108s

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    You'll have no problem with the 188 106

  9. #109
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    188 X106 mini-review:

    Me: 5' 10" ~200lbs, ski like a PSIA level 47 2nd degree wizard, ski in 130 flex boots that aren't red. Full disclosure: I like Dynastar and somehow got sent these skis for the TGR masses to demo at BBI etc. So I'm not on the take but take my review with a light salt grain.

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    (legend-ary)

    Other skis I like: 192 LP105, any ski with good edge grip, damp layup and a traditional mount point.
    Don't like lots of tail or centered mounts.

    2 days spent at Mount Baker Ski area. Conditions skid: mid-winter chalk, proto-corn, refrozen, lumpy chair 8 "groomers", recycled old pow, crud. Majority of the time spent lapping Upper Canucks Deluxe to Upper/Lower Honkers.

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    I'm glad everyone at Mount Baker skis powder only.

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    The skis.

    188cm
    139-106-123
    19m Radius

    Snow feel: Damper than the Cham 107 2.0 with much better edge grip. Real tail rocker makes for an easier slash than any Dynastar I've skied to date. Definitely not an old school LP race feel but they have guts for sure. Although they look similar, these skis are more Legend than Cham. But unlike the old school LP, you don't have to go 40 mph to make these skis feel fun.

    I started out at 0. At this mount point the ski feels super quick edge to edge and while it requires some forward pressure you are rewarded by big lateral movements and a slightly neutral stance. Sometimes in the bumps I would slightly notice the tail. But the tip is plenty supportive for me and I never once felt like I was overpowering the shovels. A tiny bit too quick on the groomers for me. Decided to go -2, just for kicks.

    -2: Probably the best position for pure groomer skiing but the pin tail felt like it was sinking too much in soft stuff and they felt slugish.

    -1: This is the perfect spot for more. almost as quick as on the line, can really push on the tips and the ski feels super balanced. If you're a more traditional skier, I bet this is the spot you'll like.

    Anyways, more later once I get more days on the skis. My 188s have demo bindings on them and I'd love to get the maggot hoard to try them out. I'll be floating between Mission/Stevens/Alpental this winter (+ both BBI), so hit me up if you want to give them a try.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    188 X106 mini-review:

    Me: 5' 10" ~200lbs, ski like a PSIA level 47 2nd degree wizard, ski in 130 flex boots that aren't red. Full disclosure: I like Dynastar and somehow got sent these skis for the TGR masses to demo at BBI etc. So I'm not on the take but take my review with a light salt grain.

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    (legend-ary)

    Other skis I like: 192 LP105, any ski with good edge grip, damp layup and a traditional mount point.
    Don't like lots of tail or centered mounts.

    2 days spent at Mount Baker Ski area. Conditions skid: mid-winter chalk, proto-corn, refrozen, lumpy chair 8 "groomers", recycled old pow, crud. Majority of the time spent lapping Upper Canucks Deluxe to Upper/Lower Honkers.

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    I'm glad everyone at Mount Baker skis powder only.

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    The skis.

    188cm
    139-106-123
    19m Radius

    Snow feel: Damper than the Cham 107 2.0 with much better edge grip. Real tail rocker makes for an easier slash than any Dynastar I've skied to date. Definitely not an old school LP race feel but they have guts for sure. Although they look similar, these skis are more Legend than Cham. But unlike the old school LP, you don't have to go 40 mph to make these skis feel fun.

    I started out at 0. At this mount point the ski feels super quick edge to edge and while it requires some forward pressure you are rewarded by big lateral movements and a slightly neutral stance. Sometimes in the bumps I would slightly notice the tail. But the tip is plenty supportive for me and I never once felt like I was overpowering the shovels. A tiny bit too quick on the groomers for me. Decided to go -2, just for kicks.

    -2: Probably the best position for pure groomer skiing but the pin tail felt like it was sinking too much in soft stuff and they felt slugish.

    -1: This is the perfect spot for more. almost as quick as on the line, can really push on the tips and the ski feels super balanced. If you're a more traditional skier, I bet this is the spot you'll like.

    Anyways, more later once I get more days on the skis. My 188s have demo bindings on them and I'd love to get the maggot hoard to try them out. I'll be floating between Mission/Stevens/Alpental this winter (+ both BBI), so hit me up if you want to give them a try.
    Very kewl.

  11. #111
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    The Dynastar Thread

    Shout out to the Candide, and its little brother the Concept, Dynastar's first-gen twin tips. I wasn't able to track down a great picture of them from the interwebs, but the Concepts were the first twins I ever had. I was so stoked on the cow spot base graphics.
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  12. #112
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    Any maggots with time on the Slicer Factory skis from Dynastar? I molested a pair at 2nd tracks today and they seem beefy AF. Are all the factory skis made similarly? Is the Slicer cut from the same cloth as the Pro Rider?


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  13. #113
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    The Dynastar Thread

    My first Dynastars were the X8 in around 1994, after being on Rossi 4S or 4M for most of my 20's. They were ok, but I fell in love with the '93 (I think) Pro Course S. I had a few pair of those before going to the K2 Outlaw, then 1080 Mogul, then the first 3 generations of 1080.

    In 2016 I picked up my first Dynastars in over 20 years; The Distorters. From day one I was reminded of everything I loved about the old Course S and then some. Two years and prolly 100+ days later and this pair is on their last legs, but still have more life than any of my Salomons did after 30.



    Dynastar stopped making the Distorter after 2016, but I picked up another pair on the cheap last spring on closeout. This pair are getting yellow and black pivots since the old FKS are well, old, plus I want to keep the old pair in the rotation for if/when I destroy the new ones. Rossi still makes the Scratch from the same mold, but different construction, so that might be where I'm headed next.



    I'm an old east coast bump fag Colorado transplant, and right now my quiver consists of the Distorters and a pair of Fatypus M5's. At least for Colorado, the Distorter is all the bump ski I need. My bumper friends keep telling me I should be on a Twister, but I can wiggle with my feet together well enough on the Distorter, an the extra width and ER works well for everything but deep days when I pull out the M5's. The M5's are pretty solid wigglers in their own right, but IMO are overkill for most days, plus at 87mm, the Distorter sinks into the snow more on not so deep days, which I like better than slapping around on a wider ski.



    The Distorter is thin and light, but stable enough with its 22m sidecut, springblade core, and glass wrap under foot. I guess Dynastar/Rossi has decided to quit competing with themselves, making two skis with the exact same dimensions, and the pivot and FKS. It looks like the build on the Scratch might be better suited to park, but who knows? They might be really similar. I'm sure there are better all-mountain skis, but for what I like to ski most of the time, an all-mountain/park ski gets it done. FWIW, I mount on the "traditional" line, not center. It makes me chuckle when I see kids half my age on the same set up, but not as much as seeing folks on 115+ powder boards on groomers.

    People like to tell me that I should be on something wider, skinnier, longer, or with some metal, but for what/how I like to ski the Distorter/M5 quiver is more than enough. YMMV
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  14. #114
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    Those who mounted their Pro Riders, what size bit did you use?

    I don't have the skis in front of me currently, so I'm not sure if it says on the topsheet somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyskirat View Post
    Those who mounted their Pro Riders, what size bit did you use?

    I don't have the skis in front of me currently, so I'm not sure if it says on the topsheet somewhere.
    They are full of metal, dude. 4.1mm

  16. #116
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    Actually just send them to me for a proper mount and retention test.

  17. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    They are full of metal, dude. 4.1mm
    That's what I figured, just wanted to make sure before I ordered a 4.1mm bit.

    Better to double-check in my experience

  18. #118
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    Anyone with Cham 117s, can you please measure your mount point from the tail? Inches is fine.

  19. #119
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    Any need for dynastar intuitive 74, 188cm (small swallow tail, boat hull nose). free. Pm me


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    Quote Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
    Any need for dynastar intuitive 74, 188cm (small swallow tail, boat hull nose). free. Pm me
    Might want to check with Leavenworth skier before you give them to anyone else.

  21. #121
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    I skied the 188 Legend x106 courtesy of LVS all day today. Skied everything from variable windblown/bulletproof refrozen groomers to knee deep bomb-hole pow. The only time I wished for another ski was in wind-crust and it wasn't THAT bad. So far this season I've been skiing 186 OG-LP exclusively in any conditions other than the WROD. It's been great in the low-tide conditions we've had at Mission, but really a letdown in deep snow. The x106 today did everything ea better, quicker, more preciesly and floated significantly better in deep snow. x106 might be my ideal DD. It is super mellow when you want, skiing with the wife, etc, but you can open it up and possibly more importantly shut it down instantly.

    tl:dr Great skis, I'm buying a pair. METAL

  22. #122
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    After an unfortunate mounting mistake (self inflicted) I need to decide +1 or +.5 for the new mount.

    Any suggestions?

  23. #123
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    So I get a text from a buddy, and Iíll let him chime in if he wants to, that he found a pair of minty Pro Riders for sale at the local used gear store for $319. He let me have them! His beers are on me for this January.

    I got me a pair of Pro Riders! Watch out, hide your kids, hide your wife, once get some better coverage, Hell will be unleashed!!!


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  24. #124
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    What!

    Better throw some p18 on those bad boys and buckle up.

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    Damn thatís a deal. Everybody knows it!

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