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  1. #1051
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    Anyone try the mfree108 at different mount points?

    Sander hadley skis em at +3cm, but that seems jibby to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    Anyone try the mfree108 at different mount points?

    Sander hadley skis em at +3cm, but that seems jibby to me
    start here https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...19#post6137419

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
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  4. #1054
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    PSA - Not my sale, but seems like a pretty good deal. Dynastar Legend Pro Rider 105 184cm $80 https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/62127411

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    PSA - Not my sale, but seems like a pretty good deal. Dynastar Legend Pro Rider 105 184cm $80 https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/62127411
    I would totally scoop those if I was in UT this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    PSA - Not my sale, but seems like a pretty good deal. Dynastar Legend Pro Rider 105 184cm $80 https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/62127411
    I am picking these up tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridge View Post
    I am picking these up tomorrow

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    Nice! I wanted these in maggot hands.

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    So from the description it really looks like the 2021 M-Pro 105 is the new LP105.

    https://www.evo.com/skis/dynastar-m-pro-105

  9. #1059
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    Same ski. New ski next year. New M98 too

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Same ski. New ski next year. New M98 too
    M98 when they have the M99?

  11. #1061
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    Think M-Free, replaces Menace 98/ Slicer

  12. #1062
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Think M-Free, replaces Menace 98/ Slicer
    Ah yeah that make sense. Crazy that they are finally changing the slicer. That mold is 10 years old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Think M-Free, replaces Menace 98/ Slicer
    If it’s a similar ski with just lighter swing weight and tips that are more smoothly sloped so they don’t bulldoze crud as much I’m in! When I demoed the MFree 108 skis I thought “the Menace 98 would be awesome with these tips/tails”.

  14. #1064
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    Nice! I wanted these in maggot hands.
    Just picked them up, if anybody in the SLC area is LP 105 curious hit me up and you can try them out.

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  15. #1065
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Same ski. New ski next year. New M98 too
    Been out of the loop for ages (Covid borders, and zero snow in NZ), so please enlighten me. Is the LP 105/ProRider/M-Pro 105 gone from next year? Better hoard a pair, then.

    Edit: my well-informed source says it will return next year. We shall see.
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  16. #1066
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    Anyone one measure they’re proto/menace/free118 mount point from tail for me?

    I get 83.75cm ish. Aka -9.5 from true center

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    -9.5 sounds right.

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    Anyone been on both the Menace 98 and a Woodsman 96?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf View Post
    Anyone been on both the Menace 98 and a Woodsman 96?
    Yes. What are you looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Yes. What are you looking for?
    General comparison. If the Menace is mounted on the rear line, or somewhere near it.

    They sound slightly similar, both being branded as playful and somewhat directional. Both have some weight to them. Guess the Dynastars are more of a true twin?

    Blister has a comparison between Rustler 9s and the Dynas, and it made me lean towards the Dynas, with the Woods as an alternative.

    Looking for a easy going (but not floppy) sub 100mm, no park, probably some bumpy trees, some groomers, some leftovers etc.

    190/83, decent skier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf View Post
    Looking for a easy going (but not floppy) sub 100mm, no park, probably some bumpy trees, some groomers, some leftovers etc.
    This is exactly the slot for the menace 98, it's the quintessential playful one-ski quiver with a groomed/low-tide bias. I have 187's mounted on the rearward line (about -7.) It's predictable at any speed, easily makes any turn shape, and will still hook up and rail groomers. The shape is nearly the same as my 186 OG LP, just softened a bit with some rocker so it's a little more easy-going, progressive not floppy, but I haven't found a significant loss in stability over that ski, and they both ski pow well for what they are. Also, inexpensive. I was told by the Dynastar Rep that the 187 has different core materials than the shorter models because "it's the one the athletes ski." I haven't skied the shorter models, but I have no reason to doubt him. YMMV

    I'm a huge ON3P fan, but I've kinda moved away from their narrow offerings. I don't think they excel in low-tide conditions when it's firm and the menace is just as fun in slushy or shallow crud as something with more extreme rocker lines. There was a recent post in the ON3P thread that indicates as much, with an ice-coaster mulling over the idea of going to a 3° edge angle to increase bite on his woods 96. The characteristics that make them excel in 3d snow are working against him, as a result I don't think it's possible to get their skis to hook up on genuinely firm snow, no matter how sharp the edges are.

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    6,1 170lbs.
    Skied the 189 Menace proto today in snowy choppy conditions, really fun ski.

    Ski is easily to slarve on just like has been said here before, has some pop, is damp in crappy snow and still lively and fun. Really liked how easy going it was and is definitely a ski I can ski on any day regardless if I’m feeling tired or strong.

    Doesnt track super well through heavy chop, becomes more of a surfy and bounce, but because the ski has weight and dampness that’s not an issue, just more of a style thing.

    Didn’t love them on groomers, as the tapered tips don’t pull you into a turn much, but still fine, pretty good edge hold.

    I guess calling them a dynastar BG might make sense, but they didn’t seem that comparable to me when I was skiing them. They remind me of a more easy going Armada declivity X and maybe a bit of a prior overlord?

    Oh and the tail is for sure strong and wants you to stay forward.
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  23. #1073
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    6,1 170lbs.
    Skied the 189 Menace proto today in snowy choppy conditions, really fun ski.

    Ski is easily to slarve on just like has been said here before, has some pop, is damp in crappy snow and still lively and fun. Really liked how easy going it was and is definitely a ski I can ski on any day regardless if I’m feeling tired or strong.

    Doesnt track super well through heavy chop, becomes more of a surfy and bounce, but because the ski has weight and dampness that’s not an issue, just more of a style thing.

    Didn’t love them on groomers, as the tapered tips don’t pull you into a turn much, but still fine, pretty good edge hold.

    I guess calling them a dynastar BG might make sense, but they didn’t seem that comparable to me when I was skiing them. They remind me of a more easy going Armada declivity X and maybe a bit of a prior overlord?

    Oh and the tail is for sure strong and wants you to stay forward.
    Good stuff. Where did you end up mounting them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthMarkus View Post
    Good stuff. Where did you end up mounting them?

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    +1cm, I dont really have any thoughts on the mount point, there seems to be a large sweet spot. My philosophy is that I want the mount as for forward as I can for tricks without ruining the ability to drive the ski, for skis like this I wish I could have demoed multiple spots. It’s way easier when a ski is either playful or a charger, then you can just mount recommend and not think about it.

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    I like that my LPs say “End Leg” when I ski them opposite.




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