The Fight for the Padded Room (NSFW)

[willywhit]

Woke ? go to sleep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDCUn-qtWek

[mtngirl79]

You should learn to embed videos. Like this..



It isn't hard.

Oh, and sit down bro.

[neck beard]

embed

Imbed was an archaic and less common spelling. So you could have argued your case....... But I would have edited it as well.

ps, still on your side.

[TheSilverSurfer]

Are you high? No one said that.

No, but you clearly are.

is anybody here shocked to know that images of nude women may be considered objectification of women

that said, this is a community with a culture and history and if you don't like it don't participate. this isn't a job, there are no protected classes. it's a bunch of upper middle class old white guys. don't like it, don't play

Mtngirl walked into the WRONG saloon. Move along. Nothing to see here

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There are parts of the site that are more of a boys club Mtngirl, if you don't approve of the content, you need to stay away.
If you are here fucking up stuff for everyone else, you need to go. The rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few.
Please stay out of threads that may offend you or we will all tell you to fuck off.

it's not a death spiral - it's just mtgrl screaming for attention - same old same old shit

this endless demand for attention is never going to stop. we are a male community. mtngrl has issues with men. it's never going to end.

ban her

it's like being a guy is something to be ashamed of. some here like pictures of naked women. why does everything have to be knocked down to the most common denominator? if you don't like the community - go - please - just fucking leave

[Kenny Satch]

How about labeling a thread NSFMtnGirl and be done with rest of this nonsense. WFT is so difficult as to avoid a thread marked NSFW ?
Are we children? If you don't have the mature control to avoid the threads that offend your morality then I say you're the problem not the content.
Another thing, since when is it bad form for several mags pick on a single mag? That's been going on for years but now when it's a female mag crying fowl things need to change?
Slippery slope indeed

[riser4]

tl;dr for thread? A little help?

[Supermoon]

How about labeling a thread NSFMtnGirl and be done with rest of this nonsense. WFT is so difficult as to avoid a thread marked NSFW ?
Are we children? If you don't have the mature control to avoid the threads that offend your morality then I say you're the problem not the content.
Another thing, since when is it bad form for several mags pick on a single mag? That's been going on for years but now when it's a female mag crying fowl things need to change?
Slippery slope indeed

You guys continue to miss (at this point it’s more like actively ignore) the point. It’s not about the reader. It’s about the subject of the photos.

I agree that anyone on the board can and does choose to click on whatever threads they want. The problem is that if you post a nude photo of a woman she doesn’t get a choice. Anyone who wants to can now see it.

All of the name calling, victim blaming, whataboutism and slippery slope arguments are just straws you guys are grasping at because there is nobody in their right mind who think it’s ok to do that, but for some reason can’t find the inner strength to say that creeper photos shouldn’t be allowed on here. That’s all anyone, including MtG is really asking for here.

[Bromontana]

I think if people would be more chartreuse these problems would slip away.

[Kenny Satch]

You guys continue to miss (at this point it’s more like actively ignore) the point. It’s not about the reader. It’s about the subject of the photos.

I agree that anyone on the board can and does choose to click on whatever threads they want. The problem is that if you post a nude photo of a woman she doesn’t get a choice. Anyone who wants to can now see it.

All of the name calling, victim blaming, whataboutism and slippery slope arguments are just straws you guys are grasping at because there is nobody in their right mind who think it’s ok to do that, but for some reason can’t find the inner strength to say that creeper photos shouldn’t be allowed on here. That’s all anyone, including MtG is really asking for here.

You make a very valid point as to consent but beyond that pictures taken from porn sites or goooogle images isn't the same thing IMO.
So then posting a link will be better then the actual pictures? You don't have to see the picture but maybe this will stop mags from looking. I think not.

[buttahflake]

Kenny Snatch, "crying fowl"?
Say what?
Read a Book

[Supermoon]

You make a very valid point as to consent but beyond that pictures taken from porn sites or goooogle images isn't the same thing IMO.
So then posting a link will be better then the actual pictures? You don't have to see the picture but maybe this will stop mags from looking. I think not.

I don’t think anyone is saying that people can’t post or link to NSFW content unless I’m missing it somewhere. Lots of people saying they don’t need it or care either way. I’m in that camp.

IMO if you post something from another site, it should reasonably look like those photos have been consented to and everyone is of age. It’s a gray area, but the report post function works in this case.

If someone is posting a photo they took or were sent they need to be able to prove consent. Lots of ways to do it, so people have options here. If they can’t the. That poster should get banned. It’s that serious of an offense in my eyes.

And we are all smart enough to know the difference between a photo taken in public of some ski stoke where there isn’t a big expectation of privacy, nor a big downside to the posting of the picture vs. a very private photo taken with the expectation of it staying private and of subject and subject matter that would be irreparably damaging if it got out.

[Kenny Satch]

Kenny Snatch, "crying fowl"?
Say what?
Read a Book

I wasn't crying...more like frustrated snickering

[buttahflake]

Are you from canaduh?
Read a Book

[Mazderati]

I don’t think anyone is saying that people can’t post or link to NSFW content unless I’m missing it somewhere.

That is exactly what some posters are suggesting and is the impetus for this thread. And the rest of your proposal is still as open-ended as it was from the start.

[wyeaster]

i think it's about the person in the image, but for tgr it's also about the regular and new visitor, and also about the way men are responding to a woman who is raising perfectly valid points in a manner no more aggressive or emotional or assholish or illogical than a lot of people here, but about an apparently sacred topic.

besides the attacks on mental health and physical appearance and social history, the arguments that because people here helped her she should shut the fuck up are pathetic. you helped somebody in need. you didn't buy her fucking thoughts and speech.

the entire episode is embarrassing for this "community." i'm trying to decide if it's more or less embarrassing than all the blatantly racist bullshit that was allowed to go on in polyass for a long time. but then there are so few people of color or women here, right?

all the women here are obviously strong in diverse respects and more than capable of ignoring or enjoying as they fit and i am no puritan. pornography is too diverse to make a blanket statement. obviously plenty of for profit, for pleasure exploitation in some regards, but also fun, intimate expression by lovers.

but this is a ski site. i don't understand why they or anybody else should have to ignore regular objectification of women in images and words when they come to a ski site or why a large percentage of potential viewers would want to. and taking it a step further, one could wonder what advertisers think about this. the nsfw threads are tgr saying "can i show you my dick?"

it's disheartening that so many people demonstrate a fundamental lack of respect, can't see the harm in that or their subsequent rabid defense of it, and then can't make the connection to larger societal and global problems.

[The AD]

All of the name calling, victim blaming, whataboutism and slippery slope arguments are just straws you guys are grasping at because there is nobody in their right mind who think it’s ok to do that, but for some reason can’t find the inner strength to say that creeper photos shouldn’t be allowed on here. That’s all anyone, including MtG is really asking for here.

Is there any evidence that a single photo in that thread has been posted without the subject's consent, though?

[PNWbrit]

i think it's about the person in the image, but for tgr it's also about the regular and new visitor, and also about the way men are responding to a woman who is raising perfectly valid points in a manner no more aggressive or emotional or assholish or illogical than a lot of people here, but about an apparently sacred topic.

besides the attacks on mental health and physical appearance and social history, the arguments that because people here helped her she should shut the fuck up are pathetic. you helped somebody in need. you didn't buy her fucking thoughts and speech.

the entire episode is embarrassing for this "community." i'm trying to decide if it's more or less embarrassing than all the blatantly racist bullshit that was allowed to go on in polyass for a long time. but then there are so few people of color or women here, right?

all the women here are obviously strong in diverse respects and more than capable of ignoring or enjoying as they fit and i am no puritan. pornography is too diverse to make a blanket statement. obviously plenty of for profit, for pleasure exploitation in some regards, but also fun, intimate expression by lovers.

but this is a ski site. i don't understand why they or anybody else should have to ignore regular objectification of women in images and words when they come to a ski site or why a large percentage of potential viewers would want to. and taking it a step further, one could wonder what advertisers think about this. the nsfw threads are tgr saying "can i show you my dick?"

it's disheartening that so many people demonstrate a fundamental lack of respect, can't see the harm in that or their subsequent rabid defense of it, and then can't make the connection to larger societal and global problems.

I agree.

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[Supermoon]

And the rest of your proposal is still as open-ended as it was from the start.

I think I’ve given more concrete ideas to preserve NSFW content on this site than any of the proponents of it. If you don’t like them, give me another solution.

Is there any evidence that a single photo in that thread has been posted without the subject's consent, though?

Yes. There are a number of photos in that thread that without proof of consent would be easy to think the photo was taken without the knowledge of the subject, let alone with the knowledge it would be posted on the internet.

Plus, putting the burden on the subject to come forward and “prove” no consent was given is the exact wrong way to do this.

[Mazderati]

I think I’ve given more concrete ideas to preserve NSFW content on this site than any of the proponents of it. If you don’t like them, give me another solution.

There is no easy solution. That's the point. I can come up with scenarios to blow up any proposed consent criteria that aren't completely subjective.

[The AD]

Yes. There are a number of photos in that thread that without proof of consent would be easy to think the photo was taken without the knowledge of the subject, let alone with the knowledge it would be posted on the internet.

Then just nuke that thread and be done with it.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

We could all learn a lot from Rodney King.

[that dude who did that thing]

tl;dr for thread? A little help?

Mazdaboy stirred the pot with a hyper-meta navel-gaze; the progressive wing think it wouldn't hurt to clean up our act a little bit; and the bro-brahs are being the dicks they usually are (at least online). Another PR dick-measuring contest.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Mazdaboy stirred the pot with a hyper-meta navel-gaze; the progressive wing think it wouldn't hurt to clean up our act a little bit; and the bro-brahs are being the dicks they usually are (at least online). Another PR dick-measuring contest.

Good recap Burl.

[Bunion 2020]

Yes. There are a number of photos in that thread that without proof of consent would be easy to think the photo was taken without the knowledge of the subject, let alone with the knowledge it would be posted on the internet.

Plus, putting the burden on the subject to come forward and “prove” no consent was given is the exact wrong way to do this.

Why is this just about pictures of naked people?

If I post a picture of myself or others skiing on another website, shouldn't you have to prove my consent before re-posting it here?

How about if I take a picture of you as you ski by me looking all rad and shit? Should I have to prove that you consent to me taking that picture? Should I have to provide proof that you consent to it before I post it up to either show off your steez or make fun of you?

Aside from the offensive content, this entire overblown drama is more than just a little stupid.

[Supermoon]

There is no easy solution. That's the point. I can come up with scenarios to blow up any proposed consent criteria that aren't completely subjective.

There will always be edge cases and it is all fairly subjective in the gray areas. But that doesn’t mean we should just ignore it.

Some really basic guideline would probably take care of 90-95% of it. Then the rest would be able to be handled by mods