The Fight for the Padded Room (NSFW)

[PNWbrit]

giggle and gawk like 12 yo kids?

This thread sure is outing the 12 yo kids around here though.

[Mazderati]

This thread sure is outing the 12 yo kids around here though.

And the nannies who think they know better?

[Adolf Allerbush]

Agree 100%. But until then it’s the women who will bear the disproportionate downsides.

No offense, but when dudes try to speak for what women experience it's always struck me as odd.

[willywhit]

Offensive material is subjective and pornography does not require nudity.

c'mon mtngirl , you know you'd tap that sweet ass.

unfortunately a brazilian goddess beat ya to it

[Timberridge]

No I'm not kidding. Wouldn't you rather live in a world where the human form at the very least is not a source of shame and at the best is celebrated? Where people don't pander to the lowest common denominator and giggle and gawk like 12 yo kids? I know I would and to that end I associate with those kinds of people and ignore the others.

Sounds like the beach in Cannes, where we used to summer before father's steel business declined.

Mtngirl needs to get out of Seattle, it's rotting what's left of her brain.

[splat]

Fuck you. You do not have the right to beat off to photos posted without consent.

I need consent to whack off? Fuck.

[mtngirl79]

No I'm not kidding. Wouldn't you rather live in a world where the human form at the very least is not a source of shame and at the best is celebrated? Where people don't pander to the lowest common denominator and giggle and gawk like 12 yo kids? I know I would and to that end I associate with those kinds of people and ignore the others.

Ok. Put your money where your mouth is, then.

If it's no big deal, let's see some nudie pictures of you.

I obviously would prefer that world. We aren't there.

[iceman]

this shot could've ruined my career. thank goodness it didn't end up on the internet. I felt so dirty. ridiculed by my peers " how could you let that happen ?" they said. I was just dizzy from kitesurfing all day. live and learn, I guess

Hey Sandy Neck right?

(not his)

[Supermoon]

No offense, but when dudes try to speak for what women experience it's always struck me as odd.

Not trying to speak for their experience and the emotional toll. Just trying to speak to objective impacts and relaying what I have heard from women anecdotally who have gone through this sort of thing.

[willywhit]

wrong thread JONG

Finally, I get JONG'd. Feels good to be back on TGR again. My bad, but those other threads are just GHEY. I figgered if I showed mtngirl MINE , she'd show me hers. Something tells me even a bikini shot wouldn't happen. I'm thinking a one piece with that lil skirt sewn in that the old fat ladies in florida like to wear to the pool.

[DBdude]

well it has been an entertaining couple of days

thank you mtngrl. you must be pleased that once again you are the center of attention

[Timberridge]

I need consent to whack off? Fuck.

Ever whacked one out to mtngirl's avatar?

[willywhit]

Hey Sandy Neck right?

(not his)

close, Kalmus Beach in Hyannis. the funniest part of these pics is that there's some woods behind it, we call it Pickle Park. Like a rest area for perverts soliciting homeless freaks for BJs . I dunno, but it's been going on for a long time, and they won't go away.walking in there to take a piss is...daunting.

I took some pics over at Chapin the other day, next to sandy neck. I can post a few.

[Kopi_Red]

I'm with AD on this. As I said on page 1, requiring a claim of consent is meaningless. If a guy is creepy enough to post a pic of his GF or ex-GF without consent, he is necessarily creepy enough to falsely claim that he has consent.

The logical starting place is to ban all nudity unless the poster has consent from the subject in the pic.

But there's no effective way to enforce either rule. The only effective way to stop the theoretical nonconsensual nude pic is to ban all nude pics and to enforce that rule.

I agree.

[JimmyCarter]

This thread sure is outing the 12 yo kids around here though.

I'm still trying to figure out what's really driving the defense in here. Maybe it's an intense hatred of mtngirl or maybe it really is the topic at hand, just seems an interesting hill to die on either way.

[DBdude]

^ it is a great dislike of mtngrl

no matter how you put it, most women I know find female porn objectifying

[mtngirl79]

so as long as a woman has pasties and a man has at a minimum a banana hammock it's safe? We see animal genitalia all day every day and no one thinks too wits about it but see so much as a human nip and all hell breaks loose.

(note: I have been discussing naked humans, not sex, not rape, simply the naked human form)

Come on, KQ.

It's no big deal. Post them up.

If it's ok for others, why isnt it ok for you?

[that dude who did that thing]

Come on, KQ.

It's no big deal. Post them up.

If it's ok for others, why isnt it ok for you?

Stop being the exact kind of asshole you are complaining about.

[GeezerSteve]

Following up on KQ's points: A few years ago I heard Gloria Steinem, one of history's great champions of women's rights, on NPR's Fresh Air. Steinem spoke of the distinction between erotica (which celebrates the human form and lovemaking) and pornography (which demeans the female human form and fucking). Steinem said she sometimes views erotica and enjoys it, while she abhors pornography. Her argument was lucid and persuasive.

Not all nudity is pornography. Indeed, most nudity is not pornography. Our culture's collective repression and puritanical shaming of our natural naked state enables pornographers. When we view the female form as beautiful and something to be celebrated and admired, we disarm the pornographers.

Of course, the line between erotica and pornography is a subjective one, thus there's no practicable way to construct a rule allowing the former and banning the latter.

ETA: Link to Gloria Steinem's article entitled Erotica and Pornography: A Clear and Present Difference, first published in Ms. Magazine: http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/ws301/html/steinem.html

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Bellingham brah is much gloomier than Seattle imo

Maybe but she's stuck with the mentality of an abused Pend Oreille valley girl.

I think most people agree with her stance on the victimization of women but she internalizes it all and lacks the ability to be objective about it because she believes that she's a victim, rightly so in the case of her father and CSW. For the most part she's preaching to the choir and doesn't realize that her approach to these issues isn't compatible with a reasonable dialogue. Of course there are those here that aggravate this problem and that is how we arrived where we now stand.

[PNWbrit]

Following up on KQ's points: A few years ago I heard Gloria Steinem, one of history's great champions of women's rights, on NPR's Fresh Air. Steinem spoke of the distinction between erotica, i.e., the celebration the female human form, and pornography, i.e., which demeans the female human form. Steinem said she sometimes views erotica and enjoys it, while she abhors pornography.

Not all nudity is pornography. Indeed, IMO most nudity is not pornography. Our culture's collectively repression and puritanical shaming of our natural naked state enables pornographers.

Of course, the line between erotica and pornography is a subjective one, thus there's no way to construct a rule allowing the former and banning the latter.

Could we encourage Gloria Steinem to become a moderator?

[mtngirl79]

Stop being the exact kind of asshole you are complaining about.

She said it's no big deal. If that's what she truly believes, it should be no big deal.

How is that being an asshole?

I'm torn by what I want her to do.

On one hand, I don't want her to post herself up because that would prove me wrong.

On the other, it would be fucking awesome and I would have a ton more respect for her if she did.

[iceman]

close, Kalmus Beach in Hyannis...

Geez I should've recognized that, I've been right there a million times (but not in Pickle Park!). I grew up half the time about a mile or so away from there, on Bay Shore Rd. in Hyannis, near the docks, kind of behind The Mooring (where The Raw Bar is now), on the harbor.

[Mazderati]

She said it's no big deal. If that's what she truly believes, it should be no big deal.

How is that being an asshole?

I'm torn by what I want her to do.

On one hand, I don't want her to post herself up because that would prove me wrong.

On the other, it would be fucking awesome and I would have a ton more respect for her if she did.

Wild guess she doesn't care about your feigned respect.

[mtngirl79]

Wild guess she doesn't care about your feigned respect.

She has every right not not give a fuck.