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    Quote Originally Posted by mbillie1 View Post
    There's no justification for polyass either, but you all clamor for that. We could make another hidden porn sub, but who would post there? Would we just move nsfw threads there? ANY moderation action gets endlessly bitched and moaned about, people crying bloody murder and first amendment and all that garbage.

    My very personal opinion is that you can either have a strictly-skiing-related-forum, or a general forum. The former requires a level of moderation that nobody (including any of the mods) wants. The latter means that you remove basically illegal content or extraordinarily obnoxious things (spammers, horrific trolls), and otherwise put up with a lot of shit, hoping your community stays small enough to self-police. Welcome to the internet, old people, it has been this way since it started. That's not a justification, but it is a reality. People suck, c'est la vie.

    For the record my irrelevant personal opinion on the subject at hand is that mtngirl is dead on correct, and is getting a lot of blowback due to being a woman and specifically being mtngirl (boy who cried wolf sort of thing). If you can't find porn without TGR you're too stupid to be allowed to drive a car, and taking/posting compromising pics even when consent is vague and not outright denied is pathetic.

    Edit: all of that said, the people with a financial stake in the business will make a decision on this matter in a few days, so if OP can pause the virtuous diatribe until then, he might get a resolution. The tone of "how on earth can you APPROVE of <thing someone posted>" betrays the incredibly naive assumption that some ostensibly-in-charge human is actually reading 100% of the content on the forums. IF YOU DON'T REPORT THINGS, THE ODDS ARE PRETTY GOOD THAT NOBODY SEES THEM. Keep that in mind before you climb up on your horse.
    I'll ignore your other post and go with your suggestion/request here - and wait for my questions to be answered. That said - I know for a fact a number of folks have hit the "report" button for both sexual and outright racist stuff over the years. They've gotten nothing but silence or blowback for it. So I'm pretty comfortable on my horse at the moment. The time has come for TGR to decide what matters most & what it is about. Waiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    this place lost edgy and cool years ago. it's middle aged dudes trying to act edgy and cool, by definition lame. Stop trying.
    For many of us middle age is firmly in the rear view. But thanks I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceclimb View Post
    For many of us middle age is firmly in the rear view. But thanks I suppose.
    Thanks for proving the point.

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    You too.

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    Porn is for people who do’nt get any.
    Less porn, more STOKE, I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
    This is for mods & the owners - not the masses who have already weighed in elsewhere.

    There has been much discussion about the porn being posted in NSFW threads on TGR.

    This leads to several questions:

    Given the prominence of porn on the site at this point, why does TGR think it is more important to provide “masturbation aids” for loser men than to be a welcoming place for everyone?

    Is TGR sure it is not hosting images posted without consent? (yes, there is a thread about this - but it fits here too) Are you guys confident enough of this that you’d be willing to defend your “moderation” decisions in front of a judge or a professional organization (say the bar or a dental/medical board) or your spouse or your children or anyone else close to you? Including showing them the threads (or heck, even some avatars or handles) in question?

    Are you sure none of the images are of under-age individuals? Same follow-on questions as above.

    WTF is wrong with you that this is even a discussion anymore? You guys have let this stuff clutter up more and more of TGR. It drives good people out. It is off putting to many prospective members. I’m not talking about any sort of “morality” debate — it defines a hostile & objectifying environment. Do you think your porn following is super important to your advertisers? Do you brag to skis.com, Smith, evo, the state of UT, Mammut, various other manufacturers, assorted ski areas, etc, etc.. etc. that you are getting them access to the highly desirable male "masturbates a lot" crowd? If so, is that part of your pitch to prospective media sponsors? Do you show them those threads and say “hey, look at the access we can get you to this prime demographic?" Think they’d all be excited to have their brands affiliated with this?

    Why, at this point in time, are you willing to prioritize porn posters/viewers above the skiing/riding/kayaking/biking/etc. community at large? Inquiring minds really want to know.
    Beautifully written and so true. I'd like to also include the unwarranted lashing out directed at other forum members. What happened to community, brotherhood and the golden rule! I took a break from the forum based on the massive amount of terribly nasty individuals. Bullies always get what's coming to them in then end. Cheers and God bless!

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    I vote the only allowed porn be ski porn or ski related porn... Of course in this age of modern inclusivness, I guess cross country snowboarding and ski blading porn should be allowed too
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
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    Quote Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
    This is for mods & the owners - not the masses who have already weighed in elsewhere.

    There has been much discussion about the porn being posted in NSFW threads on TGR.

    This leads to several questions:

    Given the prominence of porn on the site at this point, why does TGR think it is more important to provide “masturbation aids” for loser men than to be a welcoming place for everyone?

    Is TGR sure it is not hosting images posted without consent? (yes, there is a thread about this - but it fits here too) Are you guys confident enough of this that you’d be willing to defend your “moderation” decisions in front of a judge or a professional organization (say the bar or a dental/medical board) or your spouse or your children or anyone else close to you? Including showing them the threads (or heck, even some avatars or handles) in question?

    Are you sure none of the images are of under-age individuals? Same follow-on questions as above.

    WTF is wrong with you that this is even a discussion anymore? You guys have let this stuff clutter up more and more of TGR. It drives good people out. It is off putting to many prospective members. I’m not talking about any sort of “morality” debate — it defines a hostile & objectifying environment. Do you think your porn following is super important to your advertisers? Do you brag to skis.com, Smith, evo, the state of UT, Mammut, various other manufacturers, assorted ski areas, etc, etc.. etc. that you are getting them access to the highly desirable male "masturbates a lot" crowd? If so, is that part of your pitch to prospective media sponsors? Do you show them those threads and say “hey, look at the access we can get you to this prime demographic?" Think they’d all be excited to have their brands affiliated with this?

    Why, at this point in time, are you willing to prioritize porn posters/viewers above the skiing/riding/kayaking/biking/etc. community at large? Inquiring minds really want to know.
    ifin its for the mods n owners
    send a chest thumpin white knight pm dipshit
    but kopi reds gotcha number
    you have an agenda thats to rad for privacy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ichibaneye View Post
    Beautifully written and so true. I'd like to also include the unwarranted lashing out directed at other forum members. What happened to community, brotherhood and the golden rule! I took a break from the forum based on the massive amount of terribly nasty individuals. Bullies always get what's coming to them in then end. Cheers and God bless!
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    It's no longer about the nudes. Now it's about moderating.

    But I propose a compromise:

    Get rid of the porn and then block MTNGURL for life.

    Your incessant feminist whining on this board...I remember the day you joined thinking holy frick this woman needs a father figure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
    This is for mods & the owners - not the masses who have already weighed in elsewhere.

    There has been much discussion about the porn being posted in NSFW threads on TGR.

    This leads to several questions:

    Given the prominence of porn on the site at this point, why does TGR think it is more important to provide “masturbation aids” for loser men than to be a welcoming place for everyone?

    Is TGR sure it is not hosting images posted without consent? (yes, there is a thread about this - but it fits here too) Are you guys confident enough of this that you’d be willing to defend your “moderation” decisions in front of a judge or a professional organization (say the bar or a dental/medical board) or your spouse or your children or anyone else close to you? Including showing them the threads (or heck, even some avatars or handles) in question?

    Are you sure none of the images are of under-age individuals? Same follow-on questions as above.

    WTF is wrong with you that this is even a discussion anymore? You guys have let this stuff clutter up more and more of TGR. It drives good people out. It is off putting to many prospective members. I’m not talking about any sort of “morality” debate — it defines a hostile & objectifying environment. Do you think your porn following is super important to your advertisers? Do you brag to skis.com, Smith, evo, the state of UT, Mammut, various other manufacturers, assorted ski areas, etc, etc.. etc. that you are getting them access to the highly desirable male "masturbates a lot" crowd? If so, is that part of your pitch to prospective media sponsors? Do you show them those threads and say “hey, look at the access we can get you to this prime demographic?" Think they’d all be excited to have their brands affiliated with this?

    Why, at this point in time, are you willing to prioritize porn posters/viewers above the skiing/riding/kayaking/biking/etc. community at large? Inquiring minds really want to know.
    I'll answer. TGR isn't prioritizing, they set up some servers/developers at some cost, and use volunteers to run the place with minimal effort because they like to focus on other things than a forum and like it to be free haven for ski bums, friends from 20 yrs ago, and the occasional misfits/trolls that entertain the former. You are not their target audience. We have seen maggot businesses come and go, mags be born married, die, not all of the same generation. And porn wasn't a big deal over that amount of years. And it isn't now. Mtngrl made a stink. Woopdee do.

    Seriously question. Why are you hassling the mods and owners with this shit? TGR has been home of the maggots for more than 15 yrs and you are trying to fix it? As has been said before, don't like it, don't click. How hard is that?

    I agree with you a lot of time on political stuff, etc. Just STOP TRYING TO PUSH YOUR AGENDA, WHATEVER THAT IS, ON OTHERS.

    We all came to this place because we could be jackasses and not be scolded. Fuck you for scolding us and again, trying to bring it to attention to lawyers and owners to make a change YOU THINK IS RIGHT. It's not your home, Holmes. It's all of ours. You remind me of a roommate from college, for just one year.

    Grrrr
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    ^ loose buckle?

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    ^ loose buckle?
    And that is why I love this place...
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    ^ loose buckle?
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    spindrift sucks

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    When I opened this thread I thought that it was just another self righteous rant of a displaced epicski busybody trying to make the TGR clean so that the many Amish skiers and nuns that post here would not have their delicate sensibilities bruised. As I read I saw that it was another self righteous rant of a displaced epicski busybody trying to make TGR clean so a displaced feminist would not have her delicate sensibilities bruised.

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    Hope she found skidiva.com and is in a better place now.
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    I saw something a while ago where TGR pitched itself as the most "open and honest" outdoor site (or something like that). I asked simple questions. I'm still waiting for an official owner/mod response.

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    Everyone knows that You sniff Hillary Clinton's panties, perv.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    I couldn't give a fuck, but today I am procrastinating so TGR is my filler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
    I asked simple questions. I'm still waiting for an official owner/mod response.
    Is the silence not answer enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    Is the silence not answer enough?
    I suppose it is answer enough if you assume the owners/mods are cowards and weasels. I'm hoping they will prove otherwise. I mean if TGR is more about porn and masturbation and being a "he man woman hater club" than skiing/riding - they can just say so. How hard could it be for an adult (or adults) who owns the asset to be up front about where they stand on an issue a number of community members consider important.

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