Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 105
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    3,128

    Why does TGR value porn more than skiers and skiing?

    This is for mods & the owners - not the masses who have already weighed in elsewhere.

    There has been much discussion about the porn being posted in NSFW threads on TGR.

    This leads to several questions:

    Given the prominence of porn on the site at this point, why does TGR think it is more important to provide “masturbation aids” for loser men than to be a welcoming place for everyone?

    Is TGR sure it is not hosting images posted without consent? (yes, there is a thread about this - but it fits here too) Are you guys confident enough of this that you’d be willing to defend your “moderation” decisions in front of a judge or a professional organization (say the bar or a dental/medical board) or your spouse or your children or anyone else close to you? Including showing them the threads (or heck, even some avatars or handles) in question?

    Are you sure none of the images are of under-age individuals? Same follow-on questions as above.

    WTF is wrong with you that this is even a discussion anymore? You guys have let this stuff clutter up more and more of TGR. It drives good people out. It is off putting to many prospective members. I’m not talking about any sort of “morality” debate — it defines a hostile & objectifying environment. Do you think your porn following is super important to your advertisers? Do you brag to skis.com, Smith, evo, the state of UT, Mammut, various other manufacturers, assorted ski areas, etc, etc.. etc. that you are getting them access to the highly desirable male "masturbates a lot" crowd? If so, is that part of your pitch to prospective media sponsors? Do you show them those threads and say “hey, look at the access we can get you to this prime demographic?" Think they’d all be excited to have their brands affiliated with this?

    Why, at this point in time, are you willing to prioritize porn posters/viewers above the skiing/riding/kayaking/biking/etc. community at large? Inquiring minds really want to know.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Imaginationland
    Posts
    4,785

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Geopolis
    Posts
    16,085
    i didn’t read your whole rant, but is the porn really that ubiquitous? the image mountain girl cites is over a year old — i never noticed it or any other nudes. i think to some extent it’s like anything else on the internet, it may exist but you still have to go looking for it.
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    33,546
    Well said spindrift.

    It's not even as if it's even very good porn, just mediocre.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Imaginationland
    Posts
    4,785
    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Well said spindrift.

    It's not even as if it's even very good porn, just mediocre.
    I just don't care. I don't come here for the porn. I've never posted any of it either.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Where the sheets have no stains
    Posts
    22,070
    I don't see any porn except for in the PR and it usually comes with a NSFW label.

    Yeah its mediocre at best.

    Is there a need to moderate the PR?

    I was under the impression that was why it was created. Sort of like Polyass.

    Personally I don't give a shit. There is plenty of Porn available with 2-3 mouse clicks. It seems like this entire crusade is intended to mollify 1 squeaky wheel and let Spindrift puff out their chest a bit.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    33,546
    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    I just don't care. I don't come here for the porn. I've never posted any of it either.
    Agreed.

    Since it would not be a loss it could only be a benefit to not have it here if it encouraged participation by those it surely must drive away... and prevent the bigger corporate issues he mentions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    TennesseeJed
    Posts
    10,988
    I doubt it. The general gotcha attitude of the forum probably runs most decent folk off.
    "I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road

    Brain dead and made of money.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Imaginationland
    Posts
    4,785
    Quote Originally Posted by Beer Drinker View Post
    I doubt it. The general gotcha attitude of the forum probably runs most decent folk off.
    Probably.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    33,546
    Quote Originally Posted by Beer Drinker View Post
    I doubt it. The general gotcha attitude of the forum probably runs most decent folk off.
    And if anyone was driven away by it not being here would we miss them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Jackson
    Posts
    774
    This is a progression and an interesting time in society. I am not in favor of illegal activity, exploitation of women, degrading of others. At the same time I like and appreciate the rough and lose nature of the forum. I also appreciate hearing other people’s unfiltered opinion on topics. I may think they are nuts, but it is good to know the world outside your bubble. Yet I am never going over to AZ. But as we, as a society become more P.C. it makes sense that things evolve. I would expect that regulation by the collective will evolve.
    I am just here for the stoke.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    the Can-Utardia / LMCC VT
    Posts
    11,494
    Quote Originally Posted by Beer Drinker View Post
    I doubt it. The general gotcha attitude of the forum probably runs most decent folk off.
    Exactly, even if you get rid of the porn this place will still be full of a bunch of dicks & assholes, and it's not a ln assumption to say that's the way most here like it (nttiawwt)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    I couldn't give a fuck, but today I am procrastinating so TGR is my filler.
    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    faceshots are a powerful currency
    get paid

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Bottom feeding
    Posts
    10,828
    Very little moderation is definitely a main draw for me.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    33,546
    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    Very little moderation is definitely a main draw for me.
    Me too. I think the pron is a completely different issue from that though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Mayonnaisium
    Posts
    10,467
    No, it's not. TGR has more than 20 subforums. Participation in the Padded Room is not required.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    33,546
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazderati View Post
    No, it's not. TGR has more than 20 subforums. Participation in the Padded Room is not required.
    So make a porn sub forum?

    Maybe the sponsors would get upset about that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Mayonnaisium
    Posts
    10,467
    Or a Padded Room Safe Space subforum? I really hate using that term but it's exactly what it seems like you're promoting.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Montreal, Canada
    Posts
    1,837
    Really now, with so much free porn on the internet, why would you come to TGR to jerk off?

    Here for the stoke!
    27° 18°

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Mayonnaisium
    Posts
    10,467
    Then visit the Ski and Snowboard forum. Or the Trip Reports forum. No one is being forced to look in the Padded Room, much less individual threads within.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    SLC
    Posts
    5,846
    There's no justification for polyass either, but you all clamor for that. We could make another hidden porn sub, but who would post there? Would we just move nsfw threads there? ANY moderation action gets endlessly bitched and moaned about, people crying bloody murder and first amendment and all that garbage.

    My very personal opinion is that you can either have a strictly-skiing-related-forum, or a general forum. The former requires a level of moderation that nobody (including any of the mods) wants. The latter means that you remove basically illegal content or extraordinarily obnoxious things (spammers, horrific trolls), and otherwise put up with a lot of shit, hoping your community stays small enough to self-police. Welcome to the internet, old people, it has been this way since it started. That's not a justification, but it is a reality. People suck, c'est la vie.

    For the record my irrelevant personal opinion on the subject at hand is that mtngirl is dead on correct, and is getting a lot of blowback due to being a woman and specifically being mtngirl (boy who cried wolf sort of thing). If you can't find porn without TGR you're too stupid to be allowed to drive a car, and taking/posting compromising pics even when consent is vague and not outright denied is pathetic.

    Edit: all of that said, the people with a financial stake in the business will make a decision on this matter in a few days, so if OP can pause the virtuous diatribe until then, he might get a resolution. The tone of "how on earth can you APPROVE of <thing someone posted>" betrays the incredibly naive assumption that some ostensibly-in-charge human is actually reading 100% of the content on the forums. IF YOU DON'T REPORT THINGS, THE ODDS ARE PRETTY GOOD THAT NOBODY SEES THEM. Keep that in mind before you climb up on your horse.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Where the sheets have no stains
    Posts
    22,070
    A place for you to put all non-sport related stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else...
    For the record my irrelevant personal opinion on the subject at hand is that mtngirl is dead on correct, and is getting a lot of blowback due to being a woman and specifically being mtngirl (boy who cried wolf sort of thing).
    This is just more of the same old, "look at me" bullshit that she has a history of.

    For me, she is on ignore. There is that function that is made available to any who cares to use it. She also has that ability.

    This place gets more Epic-like every week.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    SLC
    Posts
    5,846
    Quote Originally Posted by Not bunion View Post
    For me, she is on ignore. There is that function that is made available to any who cares to use it. She also has that ability.
    unfortunately, "ignore user" and "report post" are underutilized here in strong favor of "whine publicly"

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    10,906
    Quote Originally Posted by danmelon View Post
    Really now, with so much free porn on the internet, why would you come to TGR to jerk off?

    Here for the stoke!
    Speak for yourself.

    I jerk it regularly to Tanner Hall stoke (god rest his soul)


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Where the sheets have no stains
    Posts
    22,070
    ^^^ well played.

    Mbillie, thx for the reminder.

    spindrift

    Registered Undead
    This message is hidden because spindrift is on your ignore list.
    View Post

    Remove user from ignore list

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tahoe
    Posts
    3,097
    Quote Originally Posted by Not bunion View Post
    This place gets more Epic-like every week.
    So true.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •