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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    But back to markerstelemark...
    I thought Marker's were verboten on this board, like from years and years ago (don't you remember mtngirl79?)?

    I don't think they made a tele binding either; they didn't need to, they exploded without their involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    Well, I was giving Dexter the benefit of doubt that he wasn't gaslighting... just extremely stupid.
    Yeah, the masses aren't always right, but in your case they certainly are. Too stupid to read equates to too stupid to engage with. That's the inimitable (thank god) mtngirl.

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    there's the dex we all know and love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-bear View Post
    i havenít been following the thread to see this- but if so- that is bullshit (postings pics w/o knowledge)
    if heís an old fuck that thinks he can get away with that, he will learn otherwise

    itís just beyond douchey. i dont follow all your names and avatars here but donít make me make a super weird fuck/ avoid list

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    It's a hypothetical. Probably happens sometimes (and ppl acknowledge it's wrong), but mtngirl is more interested in projecting her own poor thought processes on dex than actually having a discussion. As is normally the case, it's shades of truth wrapped in mind-numbing levels of baggage.
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    Look...this has happened twice on this forum lately.

    Two of us more-or-less bared our souls in the mass shooting thread and told awful stories of how those deals have broken us...and the discussion just roared past like freeway traffic.

    Mtng has "baggage" because these guys who just plow their way through hundreds of damaging interactions with women and girls leave a wake of damaged people. There's a point there...the point isn't to focus on her, and identify her shortcomings, the point is there is a statistically significant layer of our female population who have this baggage because the behaviors and mentalities that create it are endemic to who we are. We have a rapey/molesty fucking president....he has a long track record of being on that spectrum, and we nominated him for a major party and elected him president. That should say it all about our culture's level of comfort with creepy men.

    It seems like, at least for this last little while, mainstream media culture is just, collectively, saying enough already with this shit. The only point I've had to make here is that changing it is going to be a protracted and complex thing that involves fighting some of our nature as a species.

    And for fuck's sake...I got sucked into this thread by iceman saying we'll all be better off when creepers can do their creeper stuff with VR and robots. Hopefully that's sooner than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontana View Post
    It's a hypothetical. Probably happens sometimes (and ppl acknowledge it's wrong), but mtngirl is more interested in projecting her own poor thought processes on dex than actually having a discussion. As is normally the case, it's shades of truth wrapped in mind-numbing levels of baggage.
    Joking about it is not acknowledging it's wrong...

    This is proof why this shit happens and why women don't report it and why people like Dexter can easily pretend it doesn't exist.

    Your naked picture thread is more important than being sure no woman are harmed via that thread.

    It's nearly the exact thing women are told when they report bad behavior... oh, it was a joke. Oh, you took it the wrong way. Oh, he's a good guy. Oh, don't be so sensitive. Stop ruining our fun. Leave if you don't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    This is proof why this shit happens and why women don't report it and why people like Dexter can easily pretend it doesn't exist.
    When you say "people like Dexter" do you mean people who start threads on internet discussion boards to try to better understand the issue? People who act in such a way as to discourage this behavior by those in their presence and therefore don't see it? I'm sure Dexter is no saint, but I'm having trouble picking out which of his attributes you wish to apply to others when you say people like him might pretend it doesn't exist.

    You two have a disagreement about the appropriateness and meaning of a joke. Jokes are open to interpretation like that. (Most commonly including whether or not it even was a joke.) Reasonable people can disagree. Really reasonable people try not to fall into arguments that distract them from the point.

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    It's unreasonable to joke about harming people.

    The sneaky naked picture thread needs to go. It encourages harmful behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    It's unreasonable to joke about harming people.
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    How many pictures on the Ullr and Part 2 threads were posted by the women in the photos? I would guess none.

    These threads are great examples of the juvenile behavior men exhibit all the time. If you say you never see it, take a tour of those two threads. This is your community. The attitudes of the men who post in those threads or just like to look, whether they realize it or not, exemplify the societal problem of how men treat women. Itís not an equal playing field. Men post sexual pictures of women, claim the women consented, and proceed to exhibit the behavior of adolescent boys with the Victoriaís Secret catalogue.

    And then, think about statements like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat View Post
    You know some women aren't ashamed of, or overly sensitive about, their sexuality; Good looks and perky tits are fleeting, some want to show them off before they're gone.
    or

    Quote Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat View Post
    Presumptuous. Take a lap, dick punch.
    Most guys on this board are decent people, probably including the poster quoted here, but itís time to stop justifying this nonsense by sayin ďIím sure they consented and they should be flattered to know that strangers get off by looking at photos of women on the Internet.Ē

    I dont care or want to know whether men think my breasts are perky. itís not empowering or flattering.

    Now, Iím waiting for the self-entitled men on this board to try to intimidate me for speaking out. I should just shut up and let you see my tits. Thatís how it works here, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudpeak View Post
    How many pictures on the Ullr and Part 2 threads were posted by the women in the photos? I would guess none.

    These threads are great examples of the juvenile behavior men exhibit all the time. If you say you never see it, take a tour of those two threads. This is your community. The attitudes of the men who post in those threads or just like to look, whether they realize it or not, exemplify the societal problem of how men treat women. Itís not an equal playing field. Men post sexual pictures of women, claim the women consented, and proceed to exhibit the behavior of adolescent boys with the Victoriaís Secret catalogue.

    And then, think about statements like this:



    or



    Most guys on this board are decent people, probably including the poster quoted here, but itís time to stop justifying this nonsense by sayin ďIím sure they consented and they should be flattered to know that strangers get off by looking at photos of women on the Internet.Ē

    I dont care or want to know whether men think my breasts are perky. itís not empowering or flattering.

    Now, Iím waiting for the self-entitled men on this board to try to intimidate me for speaking out. I should just shut up and let you see my tits. Thatís how it works here, right?
    i agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    The sneaky naked picture thread needs to go. It encourages harmful behavior.
    Ill just start another one.

    You could always leave the free forum that you seem to hate so much.

    No one is making you stay here. Even though I did give you money which could be like feeding a stray cat.

    Quote Originally Posted by cloudpeak View Post
    How many pictures on the Ullr and Part 2 threads were posted by the women in the photos? I would guess none.
    Quote Originally Posted by cloudpeak View Post

    These threads are great examples of the juvenile behavior men exhibit all the time. If you say you never see it, take a tour of those two threads. This is your community. The attitudes of the men who post in those threads or just like to look, whether they realize it or not, exemplify the societal problem of how men treat women. It’s not an equal playing field. Men post sexual pictures of women, claim the women consented, and proceed to exhibit the behavior of adolescent boys with the Victoria’s Secret catalogue.

    Nah. Your wrong.

    My wife knows and doesn't care.

    Me taking pictures of my wife and posting them does fuck all to society. Calm the fuck down. Jesus.

    Id suggest taking a stroll though Instagram someday and see what women are posting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudpeak View Post
    These threads are great examples of the juvenile behavior men exhibit all the time. If you take a tour of those two threads, this is your community.
    FIFY. I don't disagree with your overall point, but you can't have it both ways by making men who don't engage in the behaviors you object to responsible for policing others because, in most cases, they aren't involved at all. Ignoring a thread on TGR is like ignoring a lot of the rest of the internet. Sometimes it's just the right thing to do.

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    Freedom.

    Freedom to not have your naked picture taken secretly and posted online for the sexualised entertainment of other people, unless you consent.

    Sad how the freedom of one woman is valued less than the freedom of a group of men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer Drinker View Post
    You could always leave the free forum that you seem to hate so much.

    No one is making you stay here.
    Sounds weirdly familiar; something from a gun thread maybe? Sorry you don't ski; most of us will be starting soon and it's going to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Sounds weirdly familiar; something from a gun thread maybe? Sorry you don't ski; most of us will be starting soon and it's going to help.
    Im a better skier than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer Drinker View Post
    Im a better skier than you.
    Sweet post dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Sweet post dude.
    Truth hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer Drinker View Post
    Truth hurts.
    Does it though? I've watched you defending your position in other threads and even seen your original position taken up by some dude named James and as far as I can tell it's usually not the truth that hurts anyone. Is that different in this context?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Does it though? I've watched you defending your position in other threads and even seen your original position taken up by some dude named James and as far as I can tell it's usually not the truth that hurts anyone. Is that different in this context?
    Just shut the fuck up.

    You said I don't ski.

    I am in fact better than you. I promise. Now fuck off.
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    No, I said it was too bad that you don't. As in currently. It would help.

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    BD - Have you considered diplomacy as a vocation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontana View Post
    BD - Have you considered diplomacy as a vocation?
    Id probably be kickass at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontana View Post
    BD - Have you considered diplomacy as a vocation?
    he builds the schools for diplomats so fuck off!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    he builds the schools for diplomats so fuck off!!!!
    You make it out of the house today?
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