WASATCH STOKE, CONDITIONS, OBSERVATIONS AND ASSORTED DRIVAL 17-18

**abraham** · 03-19-2018, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by lhitchner

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Check out the beater marks on the third track from the left!

**Skidog** · 03-19-2018, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by lhitchner

As F#*k You Cat wrote the Wolverine Cirque isn't inside Alta boundaries. A few hearty Alta side-country-ers sometimes ski there, but it's a long climb to get there and an a long climb back up to the microwave ridge for the run back to Alta. You can find out about Wolverine Cirque and all the named chutes (I think there are about 14-16 of them) in several places. Start here, http://wbskiing.com/2447 , but this only runs on a laptop or desk top computer, not on mobile devices. The bible of Wasatch chutes is Andrew McLean's "the Chuting Gallery" (http://straightchuter.com/chuting-gallery/ and https://www.amazon.com/Chuting-Galle.../dp/0962193577).

In Andrew's book he describes and uses the Steepness Rating system. The Steepness Ratings go from S0 to S7, and in addition to the steepness the rating includes factors such as whether there are "terrain features" that require maneuvering around, if there is a dangerous fall potential, and how safe the run out zone is. S7+ is described as "60 degree slopes with nasty obstacles. A quick and certain death if you fall." There is also an Aid Rating for chutes that require rappels to enter.

Granny Chute is by far the easiest and safest chute (people have died skiing the harder, steeper, narrower chutes) and it's rated at only 38 degrees with S3+ rating. Most of the other Wolverine Chutes are rated S4- to S4+ with Roman's Chute rated S5- (that normally requires a rappel to enter it and that's where the fatality occurred). For comparison Mt. Superior South Face and Suicide Chute are rated S4. Most people don't ski down Granny Chute but rather use it as the ascent route back up for doing more laps. Most climbers boot it up Granny's because it's a little too steep and narrow for a skin track. Occasionally some hearty souls who must love doing lots of kick turns on a 38 degree slope put a skinner up it (fortunately there's only a short choke point just below the top). That's why I asked whether the traffic on Granny's has been mostly just the booter or whether some folks have been putting downhill tracks on it. In my times skiing it there were only 2-3 downhill tracks. So, for us old timers who want to do an easy run rather than the other more serious chutes Granny's can be quite nice with good, safe snow, and only a booter up it.

Thanks. I know where it is now, was confused as to which side. I know the bootpack from the Alta side off Catherine's area. Last few days saw many hiking up it. Couple Skinner's too...

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**Brock Landers** · 03-19-2018, 09:31 PM

What's the one 3 to the (lookers) right from grannies? I assume in that last pic grannies has the skintrack?

**BobMc** · 03-19-2018, 10:31 PM

Back when my oldest son used to ski, nearing the top of Grannies, summer 2014. Taken by my buddy Travis, I was much too lazy to go along that day.

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**joetron** · 03-19-2018, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by abraham

Check out the beater marks on the third track from the left!

Holy shit. Straightline to tomahawk tomahawk to straightline. Hahahahaha

**lhitchner** · 03-19-2018, 11:33 PM

Today in upper White Pine quite a few folks went up Red Baldy. We crossed paths with 2 who climbed it twice (talked to them again in the WP parking lot at the end of the day). They said the party of 4 who put in the skin track all the way to the summit skied off the back side down Icefall (http://wbskiing.com/6069), then climbed back up the Silver Creek drainage to the top of Red Stack (Red Top) and skied down the Tri Chutes (http://wbskiing.com/3500) . My buddy Doyle and I were less aggressive. We put in 2 more tracks after the 4 that were there before ours on the NE face of Lake Peak and then we put in 2 tracks after the none that were there before us in Dog Dish. Fantastic weather day, no wind, cool up high, and pretty good snow up high (but sun damaged below 9,000' or so).

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**skifishbum** · 03-20-2018, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Skidog

Dude I'm well aware of Altas boundaries. Thanks though.

Who controls it though? Yeah thanks

ETA what I meant was that even after all my years at Alta I don't even remember those names, much less the names of silly sidecountry chutes. I ain't got time for that, it only matters to you bro brah types. "Yeah man I scored xyz line I'm so gnar".

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silly sidecountry chutes are like chicks
once ya nail em ya tend to remember the name

and no control work gets done on the bigger better canyon side of wolvie cirque
jl i cant believe your nephews a pro and out on tell a friend pro broing while i mount all the binders at work
sorry photofuckits been holdings my stokes hostage
grannies and the cirque have been gettng skied a bit
got to watch fri as it got skied and booted

as for stability that tends to bode well
yet "never trust a hoar, they dont have your best interest as a priority" has been the sage advice ive been using to help with terrain selection this season
once again think we were a couple hours behind get outside fri judgng by the sun in his shots

good to hook up with friends you havent skied with this season for an eb flannies lap

specally when your week included news that an old friend who had beaten ass cancer suddenly passed away
well tl ill miss ya buddy

pcmr steeps private club sometime in the 80's when ya got yur mini bottles outta the closet in the stairs

done poured a sip out an sharlped the blue ribbons pow pows for ya

solisunday didnt suck
nice to hit apex to an open summit and the skiing of the green peak from a 9am cto
albeit a day late for st patty
mrs. sfb crushes egp ups n downs

and is looking forward to skiing you fools for

and always good to ski the fuggiestives and nail dat g spot

shouda skied a guild line but my spansered brand ambasador needed to check in, provide feedback, and taste test some new flavs with the chief betty
o yeah and attempt to secure a bakers soli party central icepad blessing

order now for added blessings
and a few from the turn of the century sfb satch archives

lifes short fragile and fickle
git ya sum while ya can

brock hit up djongo mag solid is he
and hopes to ski you fools this weekend after i road trip to celebrate another friends life well lived

**skifishbum** · 03-20-2018, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Dromontana

Brighton delivered yet again. Couple shots of dantheman stomping everything in sight:

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and a hcbc
bump
#xoverdontknow

**Skidog** · 03-20-2018, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by skifishbum