TAHOE: LAND OF THE SNOWFLAKES -- 17/18 STOKE

**climberevan** · 02-12-2018, 08:54 PM

I'll throw in some shout outs for food & bev down here, since that's where the hype train has taken us.

In Gville/ Minden:

Battle Born wine/beer/spirits has great tastings & an impressive collection of rare & interesting alcohols.

Minden Meats is a fantastic deli-style restaurant that also has a butcher shop, 31 excellent beers on tap, and a huge selection of bottles.

Second IV Coffee Lab for the best coffee this side of Reno.

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**Ottime** · 02-12-2018, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

Maybe 1/2 or 1/3 but not 1/5. If restaurant margins were that good 80% of them wouldn't go out of business. Even including a nice bottle of wine that's normally $25 - $35 and they're charging $75 - $90 (living in wine country that drives me particularly crazy and I always find myself ordering cocktails out of spite). Buying a high quality NY steak at the butcher still runs you a fair amount.

30% is the industry standard. 30/30/30/7. Labor/Food/Overhead//Tax’s&Fees and 3% profit.

A place that makes their own ketchup and horseradish reduces food cost. When you start putting celery foam on 3/4 oz slice of albacore with fried capers, a dollop of creme fraiche, and spring of dill on a plate and selling it $18, your food cost drops considerably. Of course, then you are paying more for the labor. The more you produce in house, the lower your food costs.

Also, ability to buy in bulk. At the franchise level, an Applebee’s might have pretty high food costs, but they are buying through a supply chain designed to give the parent company a low food cost. For instance, what ever the fuck their riblets are made of, that stuff is cheap. They factory process they cheap meat into “riblets” and then sell them to their stores at a huge mark up, but low enough so the franchise owners can keep their food cost below 35%. Anything higher sinks a restaurant.

**96avs01** · 02-12-2018, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by LightRanger

Wild Cherries bagel breakfast sandwiches are awesome though. Coffee is so-so, I agree.

For the anti-IPA crowd, Moonraker in Auburn is worth the trip. Their NE IPAs are not like the West Coast IPAs you're used to. Even my wife likes them, and she's not a beer drinker. And their taproom is a really cool setup with plenty of space to hang out for a while and food trucks regularly.

On the snow front: At least the pattern's changing enough that the meager base we have isn't going to continue melting at the rate it was.

Agreed, Moonraker is crushing the hoppy stuff right now. They even won Gold at the Bistro for All Hops on Deck, and dumped all their cans of Xtremis due to a QA/QC issue. So solid recipes and good ethics, great combination.

**MTT** · 02-12-2018, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by 96avs01

Agreed, Moonraker is crushing the hoppy stuff right now. They even won Gold at the Bistro for All Hops on Deck, and dumped all their cans of Xtremis due to a QA/QC issue. So solid recipes and good ethics, great combination.

that's awesome. So the couple coming in From CANADA and staying in Tahoe City to ski squaw, Need to make a road trip to auburn to score some good beer?

SERIOUSLY?

**El Chupacabra** · 02-12-2018, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by MTT

that's awesome. So the couple coming in From CANADA and staying in Tahoe City to ski squaw, Need to make a road trip to auburn to score some good beer?

SERIOUSLY?

No, they just need to go to the Ritz-Carlton for some Blue Moon.

**TahoeJ** · 02-12-2018, 10:29 PM

Thanks for the heads up PowDork. Got these in 185 but they’re actually 185.5 and if they were Volkl / Blizzard / Atomic they’d be 187’s. STP with 20% off and free shipping code = $240 + tax. Ridiculous! Still at least one or two pairs left. Uhh... just need snow now for 122mm underfoot! ;-)

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**hercule33** · 02-12-2018, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

No, they just need to go to the Ritz-Carlton for some Blue Moon.

Don’t forget the ski valet that comes free with the Blue Moon at the Ritz

. Also, knee deep next to Moonraker is pretty solid too.

**TahoeBC** · 02-13-2018, 12:48 AM

Just checking in from Japan, was hoping things might be turning around back home, fack!

Been snowing non stop here and cold as hell with no end in sight!

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**4matic** · 02-13-2018, 01:23 AM

Nice BC, you earned that.

**Ottime** · 02-13-2018, 07:58 AM

That looks horrible. How do they ever get that packed into moguls? Must take forever to get things into decent shape.

**hercule33** · 02-13-2018, 11:05 AM

Wait, those pics weren’t taken yesterday in Tahoe when it finally snowed?

**liv2ski** · 02-13-2018, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by TahoeBC

Just checking in from Japan, was hoping things might be turning around back home, fack!

Been snowing non stop here and cold as hell with no end in sight!

Wow!!!! Any place else in the world getting that kind of dumpage this week? That reminds me of a solid AR event at Mammoth in the good ole days.

Actually, on second thought, that isn't inches of snow per day, but the temperature in Celsius. Never mind

**TurxSki** · 02-13-2018, 01:48 PM

Like we don't have enough to deal with this season...?
Now we all need to *Be Bear Aware* as well.
The fuckers are out looking for food, apparently, cos of lack of snow on ground.
"They would rather eat than sleep"

**Banh Mi** · 02-13-2018, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

Green Flash West Coast please!!

That's a pretty damn good beer selection for a ski resort IMO. I'm very curious to see what beers are available at Revelstoke later this week...

Jealous

Originally Posted by TahoeBC

Just checking in from Japan, was hoping things might be turning around back home, fack!

Been snowing non stop here and cold as hell with no end in sight!

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Andddd even more jealous

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**meter-man** · 02-13-2018, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by meter-man

Anyone know anything about "D Money's Dozen" at Sugar Bowl on Saturday? http://www.sugarbowl.com/silverbelt I'm loving the shit conditions right now, and figure I could use some spicing it up. What are the 12 runs? Will it be uh **fun**?? Not sure if my 5 year olds will be able to hang....

Here's the Dozen (or 2 Dozen):

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The Dozen benefited Excellence in Education, a non-profit that gives grants to the Tahoe Truckee Unified School District. My wife got an awesome grant from E in E for books for her classroom this year. Worthy cause. I'll be doing this next year.

Thought of it because I skinned up SB today before the resort opened, and happened to see Rahlves blasting GS gates in full tuck. Impressive to say the least.

**TheK12** · 02-13-2018, 06:32 PM

Did somebody "accidentally break" the race cam at squaw - http://squawalpine.com/skiing-riding...-tahoe-webcams

**96avs01** · 02-13-2018, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by MTT

that's awesome. So the couple coming in From CANADA and staying in Tahoe City to ski squaw, Need to make a road trip to auburn to score some good beer?

SERIOUSLY?

Given our snowpack, possibly.

**TheK12** · 02-13-2018, 07:41 PM

I'm not into conspiracy theories but sure seems like they've "not fixed" the race cam since it would clearly show the lower elevation conditions.

**gnarbro365** · 02-13-2018, 07:44 PM

DEEP in Tahoe today

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**TurxSki** · 02-13-2018, 08:21 PM

We scored some afternoon untracked at Rose. Could hardly believe it.
(Ok, not bottomless or anything, but still...)
This was like our 4th run through there.

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Ski conditions were *much better* than yesterday.
Should be a good weekend...we are blacked out on our passes tho.

**hercule33** · 02-13-2018, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by TurxSki

We scored some afternoon untracked at Rose. Could hardly believe it.
(Ok, not bottomless or anything, but still...)
This was like our 4th run through there.

Ski conditions were *much better* than yesterday.
Should be a good weekend...we are blacked out on our passes tho.

That looks pretty damn good for this year. Keep the stoke coming!

**tahoearmada** · 02-13-2018, 09:53 PM

great skiing at alpine today! stoked summit was closed because no one was going into wolverine let alone beaver, east winds loaded westish facing slopes so skied 5-10" of untracked all damn day
still a lotta snow transporting when I left, tomorrow should be great especially if summit doesnt run

**gimpy** · 02-13-2018, 10:15 PM

Lower angle n facing trees above town held bottomless turns today but some coverage was lost in last heat wave
Anyone been skiing cp or kwood??

**Tommy Boy** · 02-13-2018, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheK12

I'm not into conspiracy theories but sure seems like they've "not fixed" the race cam since it would clearly show the lower elevation conditions.

The webcams at Squaw and Alpine are a joke. At least the Alpine base cam shows the lift lines at Summit and Roundhouse.

Is it really that difficult to put a webcam on a snow stake? No, but they will not do it.

For an honest view of real time lower mountain snow conditions and KT, check out the Squaw Valley Lodge webcam.

**hercule33** · 02-14-2018, 12:32 PM

Both Squaw and Alpine are being hit hard by global warming because their bases are so low. Add bad operations where last year the lifts didn’t spin and there was not enough parking and Squaw is losing its status as a premiere ski destination even inside Tahoe. And this season, Squaw does not want to advertise what the bottom of KT looks like. In terms of coverage, there is no comparison between Kirkwood and Squaw this season.