Return of the Turn: Marcus Caston and "Actual Skiing"

[Long duc dong]

There is a place for schmear turns and a place for carving. Mcconkey understood that, people should learn to carve before sliding a rail.

[Kirby]

^^^
he said nothing about whether you are doing it right. Foggy_Goggles was just saying ski the whole mountain in all conditions. But style matters, style ALWAYS matters.

I never said he said anything about doing it right. I said that; in a thread entitled "Return of the Turn: Marcus Caston and "Actual Skiing"" no less.

[Jonny Snow]

Bonafides may be okay in the bumps. But they are no where near as bump friendly as full-on bump skis.

Wow. Such wisdom.

[Banh Mi]

Time for Jonny Snow and doebedoe to have a ski off?


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[Eastern Sierra Skier]

I follow ted ligety on IG. He regularly posts runs where he bends the ski, and it looks like a hoot to ride that way

https://instagram.com/p/BadySr4AAw2/

Ted killing it out free skiing. Watch this and get pumped!

http://unofficialnetworks.com/2017/0...skis-groomers/

[Bronic]

Episode 2

[Supermoon]

That makes me want to go skiing.

[North]

I dig these. Bumps episode was better than this one IMO - I find Caston's style on bumps to be more interesting to watch than the Olympic dudes.

Looks super fun to rip mellow, empty groomers on a film day. Wish I could hit every roller like they do in this video - reality is there's too much risk of clocking somebody hanging around on the backside to do so.

Funny to see Claire show up in one of these and drop that cheesy line at the end. We went to the same high school, and skied on the same team. She was in another league - multiple individual state titles in Slalom. Hell of a racer.

[Alaskan Rover]

there's a big resurgence in carving happening in snowboarding right now, mainly driven by the huge number of riders that are now entering their late 30s/ 40s and can't really relate to all the double/triple corking. directional and even asym boards with setback stances are back in. pow will always be the best thing you can shred but i've been having a ton of fun soul carving the groomer to get back to the lift lately instead of just straightlining it like i used to.

here's a vid making carving great again:

Hardboot carving in the snowboard world has been going on for ages. I got kicked out of a hardboot forum for calling them skiers. So I came here.

[Angle Parking]

Ted killing it out free skiing. Watch this and get pumped!

http://unofficialnetworks.com/2017/0...skis-groomers/

I enjoyed that. Thanks

[creaky fossil]

Episode 2

Double thumbs up. Black Angels makes it even better

meh, he kinda flails his arms a bit.

the Austrian has spoken

I enjoyed that. Thanks

x2. that Ligety circle finish made me chuckle

[dufferdan]

I follow ted ligety on IG. He regularly posts runs where he bends the ski, and it looks like a hoot to ride that way

https://instagram.com/p/BadySr4AAw2/

OK, this rocks. At 55, I had to relearn skiing when going from 205 P9 RS GS boards,( following my favorite of all time Rossi SMs from ‘78 and Dynamic GS boards in 207)in 1999 picked up some Volkl Vertigo Motions in 177. Kids were in a Nancy Greene program at Norquay, but a bunch of parents were ex-National team members. Invited me along and it was keep up or die. Old school riding the downhill ski hard would save your bacon, but when you could get both skis riding and rolling, the turns shortened up a lot. But made them so much quicker. Then at a swap, I grabbed a pair of Atomic 9-11 RS slalom sticks. 11 m turn radius and skied a ton with an old slalom specialist. Talk about laying down railroad tracks. Stay awake because you could end up arse over teakettle in a hurry. It sooooo much fun.

Unfortunately, a tuning accident at Kicking Horse garnered me a pair of Volkl Mantras, but I yearned for a pair of hard snow skis. panorama is a cruising paradise. Volkl TigerSharks were OK, but heavy. Now I have some Rossi Pursuit 700.....softer for old guys, but hold a carve.

That Ligety video is telling. You don’t hear a single scrape. Listen to your skis. Scraping, skidding bugs me greatly when I do it. I want to feel drop in, pressure build, roll, release, pressure build , roll release on groomers. I love watching ravers or ex-racers because they have a grace on hardpack I have a challenge matching. But I am a geek for technique.

I spent a number of years skiing with ex- Cdn national team racers. One a Crazy Canuck. The new gear has added years to a significant skill level. The ex-CC is technically a better skier in his 60’s than he was as a downhiller in his 20’s.

A lot of videos out there of very ballsey and skilled big mountain skiers. But I love to see a skilled carve. I have done enough survival skiing , getting down a sketchy couloir, or cliff band. It isn’t pretty. There is skill, but not art. There is art, and there is big balls. Sometimes they meet.


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[Banh Mi]

I want to learn some racing “techniques” this year.

I liked the first episode better. At the 2:00 minute mark, when that olympian dude transitions the bumps in the air while throwing a stylish shifty in between, damm I love skiing bumps like that. He makes it look much better though..


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[dan_pdx]

Hardboot carving in the snowboard world has been going on for ages. I got kicked out of a hardboot forum for calling them skiers. So I came here.

Don't be silly, why would you get kicked for that? We like skiers and most of the members have spent at least some time on skis.

From my seat, it looked like you got kicked for consistently making posts like this one and drowning out conversation in every thread you entered:


Please illustrate, if you will, the connection between the sentence "Your presumption that one can only EC in hardboots" and implication that I said ANYTHING about YOU actually practicing EC. Sorry...I missed that part. At least we can partially agree upon something: I'm not a huge fan of EC, either.

By vocation, education and avocation, I am a man of science...my particular dual specialization being bacterial analysis and species population dynamics. The realm of science dictates a certain fluidity of thought and by rights, a foundation of logic. The illogic that you so helpfully illustrated above is actually endemic to MOST of your posts regarding me. I realize that gardening does not, by necessity, employ an overabundance of scientific thought (indeed, I love gardening after a day in the lab, as it frees me from a myriad of theory and attendant miasma...and begets a real peace), but crikey, please make use of SOME faculty of logic in posts about me.

Case in point: your twice noted example of my correspondance with Valsam. In my first post with Valsam I was assuming that he wasn't really hugging the damn mountain...and was doing a toe-side style , with at least SOME hip rotation and only one-hand down...more akin to that pic of Jasey-Jay going at it hard just below Valsam's post. You seem to think that you can't carve this way toe-side in good soft-boots. You CAN. Maybe not at as high of a rate of speed or with quite as much angulation...as you will have less edge-grip with softies, but the fact is you can carve a good form in partial emulation of that picture...it just tweaks your knees. I know, because I carve in similar fashion, I gravitate to that style because I raced slalom and giant slalom on skis with a very aggresive, very angular and precise stance. So I was telling Valsam BEFORE I saw that awful picture, that he didn't need to drag his hand, but keep his hand just above, like a racer.

My second post was after I saw Valsam's pic. I was trying to use tact, telling him he looked all right, because I felt he obviously enjoyed it, and looked like he was enjoying it in that picture, proud of himself, actually. Style-wise and aesthetic-wise...I was horrified by that picture, it looked ridiculous...but I certainly wasn't going to tell him that! He was basically humping the mountain. I mean little hip rotation and what the heck is he doing with BOTH arms down there???? But there is no way I would tell him that. He obviously enjoys both hands down and must be proud of it. Why ruin it?

I find it rather offensive that you think that was wholly a hardbooter question just because he was wearing hardboots. It was predominitely a CARVING question. WTF??? I've been carving WELL for years. Like I said, it just tweaks the knees more when you do it at lower angles in softies...I'll probably be feeling it in later years.

You seem to follow that same false line of reasoning throughout your posts.

As to your premise that I don't know what I am talking about? I've been on the snow in many means for well over three decades, and for whatever reason, I have the body that allows me to STILL board with exuberance and precision for 10, even 12 hours a day. You say you grew up in Louisana for 19 years? When I was 19, I had already been in and around the mountains (climbing with my dad in Switzerland and France when our family lived in Geneva) since I was six. And then working with the Alaska Dept of Fish and Game doing winter population surveys, where it was MY JOB to ascend various Brooks Range and Alaska Range passes and ledges with survey gear!! How much of that have YOU done, besides skinning up various fairly easy ascents from parking lots? I think I picked up a few tricks here and there.

.As for me being this incredible a$$hol# that you purport, talk to OSECS at TGR...he's a conservative, I'm a liberal environmental activist...if any two people should be at odds, it should be us....but him and his wife just went sailing on my boat two weeks ago, never met him before...and we had a GREAT time. I don't think he'd concur with your slanted point of view

Oh yeah, and snowboard carving is dope.

[Jiehkevarri]

I am digging both episodes. For us old dudes this is a "trend" made in heaven, heh (can you imagine park rats going to give compliments like "hey old timer, such a sick carves" )

I find Caston's style on bumps to be more interesting to watch than the Olympic dudes.

Yes, a "loose" style is much more fun to watch than the perfect competition style. Anyway, Caston needs shorter poles in the bumbs. As someone said already his hands are all over the place... (this applies to racers in general imho, allmountain/bumbs...no need to bash the gates, shorten the poles and ease up - pole plants only from the wrists or so...)

Also, that Korua Shapes video - pure style, in so many ways!

[skiitsbetter]

Videos are ok and maybe they aren't doing the skiing justice. It's one thing to rip slushy bumps, zipperline bumps, and groomers, but I want to see someone laying train tracks on steeper winch cat groomers, not packing it in once it's getting icy and skied out. Or ripping Chute 75 when the bumps are icy. I once watched Ken Read (crazy Canuck) disappear down a run in front of me laying beautiful carves. I want to see that.

[Stairmaster]

Videos are ok and maybe they aren't doing the skiing justice. It's one thing to rip slushy bumps, zipperline bumps, and groomers, but I want to see someone laying train tracks on steeper winch cat groomers, not packing it in once it's getting icy and skied out. Or ripping Chute 75 when the bumps are icy. I once watched Ken Read (crazy Canuck) disappear down a run in front of me laying beautiful carves. I want to see that.

Agreed, but these videos are a step in the right direction. I personally really like them.

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[Self Jupiter]

I enjoy watching great skiers rip normal, day to day resort conditions

[Afkpuz]

Ep three is out.



Not too exciting on its own merits, but I think this is the first time I've seen someone even talk about corn in a ski film (outside of maybe some backcountry stuff,) let alone actually describe what makes it so fun. For that alone I think what Caston is doing is cool as hell.

[S_jenks]

Corn skiing in the spring/summer? Yes please!

Few things beat hard-carving on corn in a t-shirt, especially when all the pow is gone for the season.

[bry]

Been loving this series, especially this season so far. Caston rips.

[Bobcat Sig]

Missed this thread the first time around. Marcus is a rad dude. Had the chance to ski with at one of the last Gordycamps. He fucking shreds and makes it look so effortless.

Good on him for this series. I dig it.

[LeoK]

We had this nice thread drift over to the Korua guys on snowboards and they delivered this season, too.

But I am here to bump this because of "soft". Not only some great turns but also some of the more creative snowboard movies out there:

[beaterdit]

Beer League
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUnDyIKeWpY

[singlecross]

"Eat pasta, smoke Rasta, ski faster." Wisdom from the Midwest... although I think he stole that from the Bode training manual.