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  1. #776
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    Why all the Caroline Gleich hate?

    I just don’t see how her loan was supposedly obtained illegitimately? Backup/secondary sources from personal funds of employee or owner wasn’t really a PPP criteria iirc.


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  2. #777
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    No, didn't read their piece.

    Please demonstrate "their illegitimately taking of taxpayer money".

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    She was pretty quick to address how much she got, why she got it and what she used it for. Her personal brand is a business and she did lose out on opportunities because of covid, so why wouldn't she be able to subsidize some of that via PPP?

    The 'this is an attack on women' part felt unnecessary considering the article was calling out influencers of all genders though.

    The critique on the guy who got 50k and suddenly had a tricked out new van seemed a much more legitimate case than hers.

    And dumb that Cody got dragged for a company he Co founded getting PPP and someone making the giant leap to that meaning it funded his personal 50 project. Some ppl just love to invent headlines.

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    Without getting into who should or shouldn't have done what, I think a bunch of ya'll are projecting your opinions and morals on the legality of the situation.

    Obviously I can't speak to how anybody else filled out the questionnaires or complied there documentation but as a single employee S Corp, this is what I remember out the process.

    Produce financial statements and documentation as requested by my CPA in order to complete the application. (I'm my own bookkeeper. The documentation was truthful)

    Submit application though Wells Fargo

    Receive funds direct deposit very quickly

    Use funds as directed by my CPA (wages). Remit income taxes on those funds immediately.

    When the forgiveness period was opened up, again, truthfully complete the online questionnaire regarding use of funds.

    Receive email documenting the forgiveness

    You can disagree with me taking the funds but I didn't break the law. The PPP was not needs based nor is much of our tax code. So you can rage all you want about who got what but I'd be a little more rigorous with your research before I started throwing around "fraud" and "illegal"

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    Take the fucking money and run. Offer anyone free money and they are taking it. We are all going to be dead and forgotten very soon. Nothing matters.

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    Ha, Cody and Jonathan went straight into this on the Blister podcast yesterday / today. Worth a listen.
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    Just my two cents but it seems like some people are having trouble separating what went on at their own workplace and their opinion of PPP in general from these individual cases. I don’t see any reason to think Arcade did anything wrong. I’m sure they would have preferred to stay open and continue business as usual but that wasn’t in the cards.

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    What about onlyfans?

    Can single operator porn chicks get PPP?

    I’m sure some of the big YouTube channels got PPP. Mr Beast has a bunch of employees.

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    This is America where most of the population condemns handouts while demanding them.
    Get with the program.
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    Maybe someone can explain why it’s called a “loan” if it seems like it was forgiven for most people anyways. In my limited subject knowledge it seems like it was more of an additional stimulus check?

    Seems like people including myself are just frustrated that some people got additional stimulus to buy vans and travel around while also preaching covid social responsibility to their followers. If they were desperate for money, I seem to remember grocery stores and other “essential” businesses clamoring for employees at the time.
    I know for we begging for people to come assist with logistical support for fire that spring/summer and couldn’t find anyone because everyone was taking every stimulus they could get their hands on instead.

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    Why all the Caroline Gleich hate?

    Instead of taking advantage of a federal program designed for them they should have taken $10/hour jobs in grocery stores where workers were dying from COVID left and right because they needed to take COVID more seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    Instead of taking advantage of a federal program designed for them they should have taken $10/hour jobs in grocery stores where workers were dying from COVID left and right because they needed to take COVID more seriously?
    I think the issue people have is these influencers took the money and then used it to fund and document a lifestyle that many would consider an aspirational luxury vacation - while appearing to have minimal self awareness. If we polled most REI shoppers on their onpions of what the PPP loans were for I doubt we’d get many to check the box next to buy a sprinter van, bike or go hiking.

    If they had taken the money and used to to buy groceries and pay rent etc due to loss of sponsorship most folks likely would have been willing to overlook it. Most of them appear to have used it to further their own personal brand, in a career that many find to be less morally legitimate and necessary than a self employed general contractor.

    I imagine many of their audience find some moral issues with using public money to fund the activities and purchases most save their disposable income to make.

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    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfmVJ...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    This dude is a badass and these influencers are scum for trying to tear his business down because he shared public information about their loans. I just bought some gear from Tight Chutes to help offset the damage Alka and others are trying to inflict on his business.

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    Why all the Caroline Gleich hate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    grocery stores where workers were dying from COVID left and right because they needed to take COVID more seriously?
    Hyperbole much?


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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    Hyperbole much?


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    I mean, I don’t think so…

    ““America’s frontline essential workers in grocery stores and meatpacking plants continue to face some of the highest risks of COVID exposure, and the need to strengthen vaccine access has never been more urgent,” UFCW International President Marc Perrone said in a statement. “But too many states are failing to ensure essential food workers have vaccine access, as they continue to face barriers with the vaccine eligibility pool expanding.””

    https://www.supermarketnews.com/issu...se-ufcw-report

    That’s from April of ‘21

    I read at some point during the pandemic that more cooks had died from COVID than any other profession.

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    Summer has truly arrived in the TGR forums. This is some high grade shit slinging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    I mean, I don’t think so…

    ““America’s frontline essential workers in grocery stores and meatpacking plants continue to face some of the highest risks of COVID exposure, and the need to strengthen vaccine access has never been more urgent,” UFCW International President Marc Perrone said in a statement. “But too many states are failing to ensure essential food workers have vaccine access, as they continue to face barriers with the vaccine eligibility pool expanding.””

    https://www.supermarketnews.com/issu...se-ufcw-report

    That’s from April of ‘21

    I read at some point during the pandemic that more cooks had died from COVID than any other profession.
    Just to back this up, at one point 97% of our F&B staff were out with Covid at the same time. We had the kitchen manager cooking and the night bartender managing foh with a mishmash of assistance from other departments. F&B were the primary customer facing indoor staff and they got worked. Luckily most of our staff are young and healthy and nobody died, but some were very sick and out for weeks.

    I heard some outdoor influencers caught it on their long haul flights to Antarctica or at the Mercedes dealership.

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    Hard to take someone who trademarks 'Athlete Activist' who married a real estate agent in Park City seriously when they talk about inclusive mountain experiences. I don't doubt she's caught some shit because she's a women along the way, but bitching about it anytime someone questions her seems like her schtick and her followers love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Just to back this up, at one point 97% of our F&B staff were out with Covid at the same time. We had the kitchen manager cooking and the night bartender managing foh with a mishmash of assistance from other departments. F&B were the primary customer facing indoor staff and they got worked. Luckily most of our staff are young and healthy and nobody died, but some were very sick and out for weeks.

    I heard some outdoor influencers caught it on their long haul flights to Antarctica or at the Mercedes dealership.
    how many of the f&b staff caught it from someone who caught it from a globe trotting ppp customer who picked it up somewhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    how many of the f&b staff caught it from someone who caught it from a globe trotting ppp customer who picked it up somewhere else?
    I doubt CG has ever heard of this place, afaik McLean hasn’t written a book about it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfmVJ...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    This dude is a badass and these influencers are scum for trying to tear his business down because he shared public information about their loans. I just bought some gear from Tight Chutes to help offset the damage Alka and others are trying to inflict on his business.
    Are you dense? He came at Cody for a 100% legit PPP loan for a bunch of Arcade employees and then projected some shit that wasn’t true. What an asshole, what don’t you understand about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfmVJ...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    This dude is a badass and these influencers are scum for trying to tear his business down because he shared public information about their loans. I just bought some gear from Tight Chutes to help offset the damage Alka and others are trying to inflict on his business.
    Two sides every story, grasshopper.
    Cody Townsend has integrity.
    Not a good look that your "badass" erased all his prior posts yesterday.
    One definition of lack of integrity?
    Erasing evidence...
    Not saying he doesn't have a point about folks like cg or bl,
    but including Cody and Arcade with em ain't right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    She’s smoking hot visually.
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    I don’t know the guy but he explains that he deleted the posts because his business partners wanted to stop the blowback from the industry big shots he was going after. It seems like Cody’s use of ppp funds is the most honorable of all the folks mentioned, and he probably could have taken more if he wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    I don’t know the guy but he explains that he deleted the posts because his business partners wanted to stop the blowback from the industry big shots he was going after. It seems like Cody’s use of ppp funds is the most honorable of all the folks mentioned, and he probably could have taken more if he wanted to.
    As pa woulda said: "Don shoot at sumpin ya don meana kill".
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