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09-19-2019, 12:06 PM #351
EGGZACKLY! Self Awareness Hello!
I sure won't be buying any granola from a company that spancers CG!
I wanted to rethink buying Patagucci because they spancer her too...
Their shit is so dope though, especially the FitzroyTrout Trucker Cap, that I couldn't not give them my freedom dollars.
What were we arguing about again?
Oh yeah.
We are all sexists, except those of us that aren't.
So don't criticize someone who makes a living off of public image.
And doing more cool shit than you do.
If they sit down to pee.
It could never be about the substance of what they are bringing or how they bring it.
It could only be because they have tits and a cute smile that we are critical...
Back to the real issue...
Why does Brody have to LEAD Caroline down the trail to their awaiting chariot of privilege?
Have the fumes for the spent Jet-A made her too woozy to traverse the knife edge ridge in white satin high heels?
Of does he have some suppressed misogynist sexism that won't allow him to let her use her level 3 skills to get back to the choppah!?!?
Fuck that guy! I'm gonna unfollow him on instagram! That'll show him!
Bunny Don't Surf
Have you seen a one armed man around here?
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09-19-2019, 12:06 PM #352
There may not be climate-change impact from some renewable sources of energy but there is most definitely environmental impact. Daming rivers, solar arrays take up tons of land, etc. etc. There's no free lunch. Really, this attitude is a gift to polluters because it's so transparently facile and false. Own your hyperconsumption and it's impacts, don't bullshit them away.
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09-19-2019, 12:43 PM #353
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09-19-2019, 01:07 PM #354
Individual actions give legitimacy to systemic movements.
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09-19-2019, 01:13 PM #355
Why all the Caroline Gleich hate?
That was just a climate oriented reply, in response to a critique of the carbon output of a helicopter. I’m happy to discuss your idea about what to do for either our carbon output, environmental impacts, or your own personal lifestyle that makes you so perfect ecologically that you think you are in a place to critique others.
I’ve done plenty to reduce my footprint over the last few years, but I do it so I feel better about myself, not because I think my small changes will affect the global climate to any level. My time and money is best spent pressuring decision makers and supporting people, groups and yes, companies, that are working towards similar goals.
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09-19-2019, 01:40 PM #356
I don't disagree. That's why, say, Greta Thunberg's sailing to the United States was a good idea. Her flight over wouldn't have mattered, in the grand scheme of things, but she's setting a good example.
I generally think the critique is overblown though. And especially when people use it as a convenient excuse to completely dismiss people out of hand.
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09-19-2019, 02:25 PM #357
True enough, but isn't the point of advocating to convince people who aren't already convinced? It is known that many such people are looking for convenient excuses, so offering them up is at best ineffectual and at worst actually provides the whataboutist with ammunition that helps them ignore more effective advocates. (If legislators won't listen to scientists, send in the outdoorsy!?! Meh.)
OP claimed to be looking for hate-splainers, and none of this rises to that level. Borrowing from Buster, those concerned with hypocrisy have to start with own own. But the critique of her actions as they impact her effectiveness is still true as far as it goes.
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09-19-2019, 02:39 PM #358
True enough. But where do we draw the line? There's a lot of subjective grey area there.
Take Al Gore for example. Guy has been raising awareness about global warming for decades. Earth in the Balance was published in 1992. He's probably more responsible for raising climate change awareness than anybody. And he was doing it before most others except some scientists and a handful of enviro activists. To do that, he flew around the world a lot. I'm sure he's taken a lot of unnecessary flights for leisure too. He's a rich guy.
Does that mean he's a hypocrite? I mean, I guess. But I would argue he's done more good than ill. And I think the argument to make on that point is fairly easy, given the available evidence.
Like I said, the heli to the wedding photos is low-hanging fruit. But overall, I dunno, no matter what people do short of killing themselves to offset their carbon footprint, somebody is still going to criticize them for hypocrisy.
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09-19-2019, 03:05 PM #359
I guess my point is that I agree with Buster in that judging a person for hypocrisy seems hypocritical, but it doesn't stop me from seeing the pragmatic effect it has on their message. Same goes for CG, JJ, Gore...
As a member of the peanut gallery, more discussion of people who are trying to lead from the front seems helpful. Particularly those who are modeling and discovering better ways.
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09-19-2019, 04:11 PM #360
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09-19-2019, 04:25 PM #361
Many wetland systems are carbon sinks, and urban ponds can help with nutrient removal if properly designed which can limit things like nitrogen and phosphorous in larger water bodies and consequently reduce algal blooms. So your categorization of ponds is vague and off base IMO.
edit to add: If you are talking about large parking lots with a large pond lacking vegetation as a stormwater basin then yes, that can be a problem. Although phosphorous may bind to sediment and be retained limiting effluent concentrations. The bottom line is design is all site specific. That's why I don't agree with the sweeping categorizations of "urban ponds" being bad for the environment and contributing to "greening" as the article states.Last edited by 3PinGrin; 09-19-2019 at 04:50 PM.
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09-20-2019, 11:50 AM #362
I appreciate the reply. My wife works for a city making sure we have detention basins for stormwater runoff. It is harder to develop porous concrete because it cracks to pieces with freeze thaw cycles. They tried a small test section a couple years ago and it failed.
My point was basically what lightranger said. Where do we draw the line? When people make an effort to do better ala JJ we still criticize him. For some people flying heli's is a job. Do they get to speak up? Do we refuse a heli evacuation if we get hurt in the backcountry?
I personally decided years ago heli skiing isn't something I am interested in for a variety of reasons - although jumping over to another ridge at Silverton for 50 bucks would be fun since it flies anyway. Easy for me as a working stiff that has to count beans and can't afford heli skiing anyway but not so easy for people who pay bills flying around providing services. Do they have to remain silent?
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09-20-2019, 11:57 AM #363
Getting an emergency heli evacuation is a completely different thing than using a helicopter to go skiing or take wedding photos. This is whataboutism at its worst.
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09-20-2019, 11:58 AM #364
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09-20-2019, 12:26 PM #365
Okay. You guys are judge and jury for the purity department. Got it.
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09-20-2019, 12:39 PM #366
whats goin on
ifin ya changed it from hate to cuck love
mosta yoused still be winning why all the way beats me
but whats evers
im gonna respond to the thread
by posting in it
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09-20-2019, 12:47 PM #367
You took a picture of the hand of a 95 year old Nepalese farmer holding a cigarette on your roof?
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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09-20-2019, 01:39 PM #368Minion
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A friend of mine fly's Feinstein's husbands jet, G-550, He tells me they burn 50 gallons of fuel just taxiing for takeoff
That's one of how many private jets everyday? no shit we have a problem, what we have here is rich fuckers thinking their too important to use other modes of transport
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09-20-2019, 02:14 PM #369
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09-20-2019, 04:36 PM #370
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09-20-2019, 04:44 PM #371
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09-20-2019, 04:50 PM #372
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09-22-2019, 06:39 AM #373
Did the plane ever have teenage sex slaves on it?
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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09-23-2019, 04:06 PM #374
I could get up on my high horse and talk about the simple life I've lived and my very small carbon footprint but.......
We are all guilty and we are all fucked. I'm pretty sure the ski industry wouldn't function without capitalism and peoples drive to obtain wealth, the core of why humans keep hitting the gas as hard as they can towards societal collapse. At this point I'm fairly convinced it's our purpose to push the earth into it's next cycle and besides, we don't deserve to be here any longer anyways.
And those climate "protests" are bullshit too. We had a pretty good turn out one day here in Flagstaff, my daughter went with her school even but afterwards you could watch the majority of protesters get into their expensive cars and drive off. I don't think anyone is ready to make the sacrifices it would take to make an actual difference.
In the end, climate change is probably the best thing for the planet because what the Earth really needs is a massive die off to help clear it of it's human infestation.dirtbag, not a dentist
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09-23-2019, 05:22 PM #375
Caroline just flew back from SLC to MN to follow her bike riding husband in a car for support. That’s a climate activist for you.
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