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09-19-2017, 10:41 PM #1
WTF is a Soft Edge Ski? Gilson Skis
So this advertisement popped up for soft edge skis.... huh?
http://www.gilsonsnow.com/ski-release.html
I guess I would give a pair a try as a novelty like Rax, or those wood only skis, or snowboarding but can not see an advantage that would have me spending any $$$
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09-19-2017, 10:49 PM #2
Looks like they've fully spooned the whole ski.
I'd be amazed/impressed if they manage to sell a thousand pairs of this.
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09-20-2017, 12:08 AM #3
WTF is a Soft Edge Ski? Gilson Skis
So it's a modern K2 Ballet. I skied a pair of those once - ONCE - back in 1983. They sucked.
Looks like a solution in search of a problem. YMMV.
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09-20-2017, 08:22 AM #4
I vote that you all resurrect ski ballet
wouldya look at those sleeves!
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09-20-2017, 08:57 AM #5Registered User
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Mosely could be the man for it
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09-20-2017, 11:09 AM #6
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09-20-2017, 11:15 AM #7
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09-20-2017, 01:42 PM #8
Sweet Swatch watch ad in the background of the Breck video
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09-20-2017, 01:58 PM #9Registered User
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So it's just a normal ski with a really shitty base high tune?
Sweet.
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09-20-2017, 02:15 PM #10
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09-20-2017, 02:25 PM #11Rope->Dope
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These guys were at Eldora a few years ago, I tried their swallowtail and park boards. The park board was LOOSE. Any jabroni could press and manual on them, which was cool, but was way too unstable for anything outside the park. Soft edge meant no catches on boardslides, so I can see the appeal for jibbers
Swallowtail was OK, I didn't think it was anything groundbreaking in bounds, might be something that you only bring out on deep days. The "pow channel" thing, didn't really get to see what it does since it was sunny hardpack, so I guess my experience is incomplete?
The soft edge is weird, not a fan of it at high speeds at all. I believe they said the edge "catches" at a 10 degree tilt.
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09-21-2017, 11:17 AM #12glocal
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09-21-2017, 11:21 AM #13Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
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09-21-2017, 12:04 PM #14
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09-22-2017, 11:41 AM #15
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11-10-2017, 10:47 AM #16
I've got a new pair, If I can find may way back to this thread once I ski them, I'll let you know.
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11-12-2017, 10:13 AM #17
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11-12-2017, 02:31 PM #18
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11-12-2017, 03:41 PM #19
I am sure any shop rat will get the tune right.
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03-19-2018, 07:15 PM #20
Bumpty dumpty...demoed Gilson's all-mountain ski at Stevens yesterday. The reps were cool. Talking points/claims (from the rep):
1. The ski is quicker edge-to-edge
2. Park skiers don't have to detune edges anymore
3. Something something surfy playful woohoo fun
4. Don't make the call on them after only one run
Me: 5'9", 135lbs, kind of a big deal, skiing 178cm Scimitars/FKS 185 that day (thanks again OldSchool1080s)
Conditions: mid 30s, snowing lightly, soft on piste/park, kind of gross crust off-piste.
Skis: 173cm Gilson Skis (this appears to be the all-mountain model name) with Tyrolia demo bindings.
Pre-skiing impressions: reasonably stiff flex underfoot and tail, softer tip; rocker/early rise tip, no rocker in the tail but plenty of twin tip for switch. Lighter than Scimitars/FKS, but not by a lot.
Run 1: immediately went for a small double in the trees near the top of Hogs, skis flew out from under me on the off-camber lip, landed on my ass. Low-edge-angle turns, or slight traversing, resulted in slipping down the fall line. High edge angles, once you get there, make the ski feel pretty normal.
Runs 2 and 3 involved pump-track features, tight trees, boxes, and park jumps.
The defining characteristic of the ski, for me, was that turn initiation always involved drifting a lot. This was okay on groomers or wide-open off-piste slopes, but I never felt like I got the drift control down in bumps or on takeoffs or landings. Skiing bases flat or low edge angles was always a gamble.
Another odd feature was that they were very noisy, almost like fishscaled Nordic skis. The base looked pretty dry. I imagine hot-waxing/scraping/stonegrinding these things is not super easy.
So, to address the rep's talking points:
1. The ski is quicker edge-to-edge
2. Park skiers don't have to detune edges anymore
3. Something something surfy playful woohoo fun
4. Don't make the call on them after only one run
My slightly heavier and taller friend tried the 183s (coming off 178 Blends), and loved them. He looks like this, though, so I'm not sure he's trustworthy.
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03-19-2018, 07:35 PM #21
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03-20-2018, 10:18 AM #22
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