Overrated

**The AD** · 08-30-2017, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by DIYSteve

The harmonic sophistication under an ostensibly simple melody, more specifically the ambiguity of the key, very creative frequent modulations pulled off with such ease, inverted chords with the bass nearly always playing a note other than the tonic, unresolved chords at the brink of resolving then resolving to surprising places but never sounding tricked up. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a more harmonically rich pop song, except Jimmy Van Heusen's Here's That Rainy Day (if that qualifies as a pop song). Both songs are often the subject of harmonic analysis in advanced music theory classes, and for good reason. Brian Wilson heard this stuff in his head. Genius.

That might make it an interesting song from a musical theory standpoint, but doesn't make it a good song. Obviously plenty of people think it sounds good, too, but I'm not a fan.

**JimmyCarter** · 08-30-2017, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by DIYSteve

The harmonic sophistication under an ostensibly simple melody, more specifically the ambiguity of the key, very creative frequent modulations pulled off with such ease, inverted chords with the bass nearly always playing a note other than the tonic, unresolved chords at the brink of resolving then resolving to surprising places but never sounding tricked up. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a more harmonically rich pop song, except Jimmy Van Heusen's Here's That Rainy Day (if that qualifies as a pop song). Both songs are often the subject of harmonic analysis in advanced music theory classes, and for good reason. Brian Wilson heard this stuff in his head. Genius.

TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD!!!

**El Chupacabra** · 08-30-2017, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by DIYSteve

The harmonic sophistication under an ostensibly simple melody, more specifically the ambiguity of the key, very creative frequent modulations pulled off with such ease, inverted chords with the bass nearly always playing a note other than the tonic, unresolved chords at the brink of resolving then resolving to surprising places but never sounding tricked up. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a more harmonically rich pop song, except Jimmy Van Heusen's Here's That Rainy Day (if that qualifies as a pop song). Both songs are often the subject of harmonic analysis in advanced music theory classes, and for good reason. Brian Wilson heard this stuff in his head. Genius.

But these go to eleven.

**muted** · 08-30-2017, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by DIYSteve

The harmonic sophistication under an ostensibly simple melody, more specifically the ambiguity of the key, very creative frequent modulations pulled off with such ease, inverted chords with the bass nearly always playing a note other than the tonic, unresolved chords at the brink of resolving then resolving to surprising places but never sounding tricked up. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a more harmonically rich pop song, except Jimmy Van Heusen's Here's That Rainy Day (if that qualifies as a pop song). Both songs are often the subject of harmonic analysis in advanced music theory classes, and for good reason. Brian Wilson heard this stuff in his head. Genius.

All that brilliance and it still sounds like a childrens sing-a-long.

**Soups** · 08-30-2017, 04:52 PM

Perfect in the end of Boogie Nights though

**mall walker** · 08-30-2017, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyCarter

TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD!!!

lol nice

I danced with my mom at my wedding to that song iirc, no objection to calling it overrated tho. I'm not that sentimental.

**Meadow Skipper** · 08-30-2017, 06:36 PM

God Only Knows is overrated. Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline No are better:

**Banh Mi** · 08-30-2017, 06:41 PM

Bose Headphones are overrated.

Someone should also start an Underrated thread.

**goldenboy** · 08-30-2017, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

Double IPAs

IPA's in general. So many great beers out there and this shitty style is the one that stupid Americans fixate on.

**HD333** · 08-30-2017, 07:12 PM

Smart TVs are overrated.

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**Flyoverland Captive** · 08-30-2017, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by goldenboy

IPA's in general. So many great beers out there and this shitty style is the one that stupid Americans fixate on.

I like my beer to bite me back, and I don't like the sugary flavors of maltier beers, so IPAs work for me. YMMV.

And I'd say more stupid Americans fixate on watery lagers and pilsners than IPAs.

**smartyiak** · 08-30-2017, 07:18 PM

At the risk of being shunned by ECRC: Heady Topper. That's right...I put it in writing: Heady Topper is overrated!

**hatchgreenchile** · 08-30-2017, 07:30 PM

I wasn't a fan either !

**Danno** · 08-30-2017, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by goldenboy

IPA's in general. So many great beers out there and this shitty style is the one that stupid Americans fixate on.

mostly agree. I enjoy my share of IPAs, but...

**Danno** · 08-30-2017, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by flowing alpy

having a go to breakfast joint is highly underrated

Not by me.

**El Chupacabra** · 08-31-2017, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not by me.

More of a breakfast bong load, eh?

**Danno** · 08-31-2017, 08:55 AM

Ha, didn't read it that way at all, but then,consider the poster.

**jackstraw** · 08-31-2017, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by smartyiak

At the risk of being shunned by ECRC: Heady Topper. That's right...I put it in writing: Heady Topper is overrated!

It is now, but was not 5 years ago.

**GiBo** · 08-31-2017, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by DIYSteve

The harmonic sophistication under an ostensibly simple melody, more specifically the ambiguity of the key, very creative frequent modulations pulled off with such ease, inverted chords with the bass nearly always playing a note other than the tonic, unresolved chords at the brink of resolving then resolving to surprising places but never sounding tricked up. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a more harmonically rich pop song, except Jimmy Van Heusen's Here's That Rainy Day (if that qualifies as a pop song). Both songs are often the subject of harmonic analysis in advanced music theory classes, and for good reason. Brian Wilson heard this stuff in his head. Genius.

I have this argument with my jazz/classical/prog rock friend all the time. I don't give a shit how much technical music theory brilliance is in a piece. No one cares about that.

Does it touch you in some way? Make you feel something? Maybe Pet Sounds managed to do both for some people, but for most people, 3 cords and the truth is where it's at.

**Bobby Stainless** · 08-31-2017, 09:45 AM

Bacon.

yeah I said it.

**mall walker** · 08-31-2017, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Beer Drinker

Bacon.

yeah I said it.

And on that note: avocado, anything called "aioli," and the flavor "chipotle" (and possibly also the restaurant chipotle but this depends highly on your friend group)