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    oh, never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    Donít buy LG. No one except LG will work on themÖ.if you canít or donít have the time to do it yourself.
    LG is actualy ahead of samsung in ratings, almost bought an LG for 150$ less but decided mebe the 5 stars of Boschness would mean its not gona break

    and of course its German eh if we are gona take Frank's advice

    Only 1 appliance store and there wasn't anyone fixing appliances in town for awhile, I duno if the new outfit is any good, in any case i always fix appiances myself but I don't want to
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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    Your Bosch must have a macerator, which mine does not. Still does a decent job.
    Our Bosch just has a trap, which needs to get cleaned out like once a year. I believe everything else gets dissolved by the detergent, which is way more effective than it used to be. I went down the rabbit hole on this a few years ago after someone in another forum mentioned their dishwasher etched their water glasses. I was like "bullshit" then did some reading and was like "oh, shit".

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    I miss macerators.

    Fucking screen Bosch trap always has funky food in there. Wife doesn’t even know it exists.

    Commercial DW would be sweet. Need 220v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    actualy you can stick dishes with all kinds of smoo still on them/ no rinse and they come out looking spotless, I have been amazed by ze Bosch product

    I got a buddy with a restaurant grade gas stove in his kitchen that is probably stuck there unless he can figure out ho to move the island, this thing has pilot lights that burnt 150$ worth of gas when he was on a trip out of country

    I question the need for restaurant anything unless you are operating a restaurant
    Yeah, does his home insurance know about that stove?
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    My newer LG is inferior to my prior 30yo Kitchen Aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyg82 View Post
    Yeah, does his home insurance know about that stove?
    That's a question often asked by those who want to have one, and I've seen them in a good number of homes over the years. The biggest issues are: 1. Constantly burning pilots without an automatic fire suppression system. That's solved by permanently disabling pilots and hand lighting. 2. Lack of insulation on the back and sides and front of the oven. That's solved by adding a fireproof layer between the range and any combustable surfaces like walls and cabinetry.

    I called multiple insurance companies, including my own when exploring the commercial range thing. I asked very specific questions. Not one of them said it was prohibited or would void my coverage in the event of a fire. And not one of them said it wouldn't. I could never find anyone who had had a fire and a commercial range. So there's that....

    My guess is that if you were negligent or careless (pilots burning, hot surfaces agains combustibles) you'd be fucked for sure.
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    This. It's more fodder for the 'I love my wife and all....' thread. My ex didn't either. Oh, and there are 120v undercounter bar high temp or chemical dishwashers that fit right in where your Bosch goes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    I miss macerators.

    Fucking screen Bosch trap always has funky food in there. Wife doesn’t even know it exists.
    Commercial DW would be sweet. Need 220v.
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    So, the object of desire is a manual, fast, awd (all wash dishes)?

    Bur, can you sleep in it?
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    https://ca.images.search.yahoo.com/y...g&action=click

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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    That's a question often asked by those who want to have one, and I've seen them in a good number of homes over the years. The biggest issues are: 1. Constantly burning pilots without an automatic fire suppression system. That's solved by permanently disabling pilots and hand lighting. 2. Lack of insulation on the back and sides and front of the oven. That's solved by adding a fireproof layer between the range and any combustable surfaces like walls and cabinetry.

    I called multiple insurance companies, including my own when exploring the commercial range thing. I asked very specific questions. Not one of them said it was prohibited or would void my coverage in the event of a fire. And not one of them said it wouldn't. I could never find anyone who had had a fire and a commercial range. So there's that....

    My guess is that if you were negligent or careless (pilots burning, hot surfaces agains combustibles) you'd be fucked for sure.
    Itís the BTU that triggers the non-water suppression requirement, not a pilot light thing. I donít remember the number but if you enjoy reading fire code, crack open your copy of NFPA 96Ö Hence why the hotel omelet bar or the KBBQ joint donít have an Ansul system but Dennyís doesÖ


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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    Itís the BTU that triggers the non-water suppression requirement, not a pilot light thing. I donít remember the number but if you enjoy reading fire code, crack open your copy of NFPA 96Ö Hence why the hotel omelet bar or the KBBQ joint donít have an Ansul system but Dennyís doesÖ


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    Itís cooking with an appreciable depth of grease, or production of grease laden vapors that triggers a Type I hood suppression system. I canít think of a BTU amount that triggers a suppression system, that sounds more like a CFM requirement from the IMC.

    Iíve been wrong before though.

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    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/432...-temp:low-temp

    I'm kicking around this idea again as my new place doesn't have a dishwasher because the kooks who lived in it before thought they were worse for the environment than hand washing.

    They cost about double (minimum) a residential Bosch, and the repairs seem challenging, but the appeal is strong for me now for the speed of washing. Low temp (which you will want to be compatible with your water heater) requires chemical pumps which seem to be one of the common faults. You will also need a 3/4 inch water line direct to the machine, which may or may not require some additional plumbing work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    So, the object of desire is a manual, fast, awd (all wash dishes)?

    Bur, can you sleep in it?
    But can it haul a station wagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/432...-temp:low-temp

    I'm kicking around this idea again as my new place doesn't have a dishwasher because the kooks who lived in it before thought they were worse for the environment than hand washing.

    They cost about double (minimum) a residential Bosch, and the repairs seem challenging, but the appeal is strong for me now for the speed of washing. Low temp (which you will want to be compatible with your water heater) requires chemical pumps which seem to be one of the common faults. You will also need a 3/4 inch water line direct to the machine, which may or may not require some additional plumbing work.
    Old school two wash pans or sinks. One wash. One rinse. Doesn’t use much water.
    New school faucet running for wash and rinse is crazy wasteful. Lots of water. It’s like running the faucet while you’re brushing your teeth.

    I run my Miele on crystal cycle. About 1:20
    But it lightly pisses on the dishes. And I have to scrape and lightly rinse.
    Miss the old kitchen aid where you put dishes in with food scraps included.

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    So are you going low or high temp? 120 or 240? Tanks of chems seems like more than I'd want to deal with or have space for. Does the high temp require 3/4 inch?

    I've seen them on craigslist used from closing restaurants, and even companies that handle used rest stuff for half or less of brand new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/432...-temp:low-temp

    I'm kicking around this idea again as my new place doesn't have a dishwasher because the kooks who lived in it before thought they were worse for the environment than hand washing.

    They cost about double (minimum) a residential Bosch, and the repairs seem challenging, but the appeal is strong for me now for the speed of washing. Low temp (which you will want to be compatible with your water heater) requires chemical pumps which seem to be one of the common faults. You will also need a 3/4 inch water line direct to the machine, which may or may not require some additional plumbing work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/432...-temp:low-temp

    my new place doesn't have a dishwasher because the kooks who lived in it before thought they were worse for the environment than hand washing.
    .
    yeah I got a couple of enviro nerd friends like that ^^ I also lived with a enviro-nerd vegatarian one of them "don't use my cutting boards" types who said he couldn't use a DW to which i replied " well i'm using the MOFOing dw so if you are also washing by hand we will be duplicating using twice as much water which is not saving the world in any way/ shape/ form but whatever "
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    But can it haul a station wagon?
    I sense a market for a new kind of Russian dolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/432...-temp:low-temp

    I'm kicking around this idea again as my new place doesn't have a dishwasher because the kooks who lived in it before thought they were worse for the environment than hand washing.

    They cost about double (minimum) a residential Bosch, and the repairs seem challenging, but the appeal is strong for me now for the speed of washing. Low temp (which you will want to be compatible with your water heater) requires chemical pumps which seem to be one of the common faults. You will also need a 3/4 inch water line direct to the machine, which may or may not require some additional plumbing work.
    Why pay 2x or more? Just get one of the nicer residential Bosch washers that has good soundproofing and run it at night while you sleep. You'll save a few thousand bucks so you can pick up some extra dishes and silverware to make sure you never run out.

    Also, I spent a summer in high school washing dishes in a restaurant. That was the last millennium so things may have changed, but the dishwasher I used at the restaurant didn't work any better than the residential dishwasher I have today, it just ran in a few minutes rather than 80 minutes or whatever. I still had to scrape and manually remove anything that was really stuck, otherwise the commercial washer would just bake it on. As the manager told me during training "the dishwasher gets the dishes sanitary. It's YOUR job to get them clean."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    Why pay 2x or more? Just get one of the nicer residential Bosch washers that has good soundproofing and run it at night while you sleep. You'll save a few thousand bucks so you can pick up some extra dishes and silverware to make sure you never run out.
    ."
    pedantic dentists who must watch the whole cycle ?
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