Under counter commercial dishwasher at home. Anyone have one?

[365wp]

We've been running our Bosch on the 30min cycle and it seems to get everything clean. Not dry, just clean. And it's definitely louder than when we bought it.

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That's purty. But the most important question is, Can the low flow restriction be defeated easily? Because all the fancy tech in the world isn't going to make 1.75gpm feel like a real commercial full pressure sprayer.

we have something similar -- the spray function is effective enough, even at residential pressure. you can buy commercial at 1gpm, and, with decent pressure, have an effective "power wash".

quite frankly, i'm not sure any residential kitchen really wants a commercial kind of overspray all over the kitchen -- altho i imagine the kids would love shooting it at each other

mrs acinpdx calls this fixture a "lunch lady" cuz you always see it behind the school cafeteria line

[fastfred]

For the sprayer faucer Grohe K7 are super nice and have a kind of industrial chic thing going on, Not cheap by a long shot but super handy, works great and you'll never have to replace it. Works like a normal faucet until you toggle it on and unhook it from the bracket thing.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GROHE-K7-...FQZ6fgodKFMAhQ

Grohe sucks monkey balls, don't buy that shit please, I"ve thrown out about six high end grohe bullshit faucets lately, they all work, if anyone really wants one i'll mail the next one to you, some of them might be in my copper recycle pile though, so you could get one by friday if your lucky

and don't ever buy a facuet or even a toilet at home depot or lowes

[Meadow Skipper]

If you can't wait 90 minutes for the machine to wash your dishes you need to rethink life.

I keep coming back to this. I have to agree.

But I fucking hate our Asko.

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If you ^^ hate your Asko just quit using it and see how long before you love it again

IME one can usually make a DW work a little better even without a pre-rinse by not using the environmentally friendly soap

and finding a dish loading pattern that does not suck

run the DW at night and turn off the drying cycle cuz thats what uses so much electricity

[Meadow Skipper]

If you ^^ hate your Asko just quit using it and see how long before you love it again.

I see your point, but paying that much money for something that needs repair annually and clogs up every three months is bound to generate a certain amount of antipathy.

[XXX-er]

Bosch, Asko no wonder with all this ^^ fucking euro trash?

Ask yerself what Donald Trump would buy ?

[Meadow Skipper]

Bosch,

Yeah, yeah, but Asko's what my wife chose.

Ask yerself what Donald Trump would buy ?

Are there gold-colored dishwashers?

[XXX-er]

Yeah, yeah, but Asko's what my wife chose.

OK ^^ why didn't you say so

I get the idea maybe the new shit is shit or maybe I just have good appliance Karma but GE, kitchenaid, kenmore have always seemed to run forever and what did break down was simple enough to fix with a few tools



I think the Don has been into them eastern euro models ... maybe thats the ticket eh?

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None of them last more than 8 yrs anymore

[oftpiste]

Bosch is not the tits IMO. Too many repairs, and they're stupid expensive to have fixed. Same with Sub-Z. My Bosch does not have a 30 minute cycle. I lived for years with cheap, American appliances and never once called the repairman. They know me by name at Appliance Service Center.

Yes, 1st world problem indeed.

For those who say I need to rethink life if I can't wait 90, perhaps that's true though I am rethinking life on a lot of levels right now, and the commercial DW is one of them.

Here's the thing: I'm a clean-as-you-go cook. I fucking hate having a bunch of pots, pans, cutting boards, mis en place containers, whiskers, graters, etc. laying about awaiting a cleanse, or even sitting on the drainboard drying while I'm making more dishes to wash.

Seems to me with a commercial machine, you throw everything in there as you use it (instead of washing that stuff by hand, drying it and stowing it several times in a prep process), hit the start button and 2 minutes later it comes out clean and dry, then put it away. Nothing has to pile up in the sink, just throw it in the under-counter. Repeat as necessary.

For a small group you load it with dishware after the meal, put it away while dessert is warming. Large group, no more worries about having too much stuff for the 90 minute dishwasher which virtually happens every time the group is 10+, and you end up hand washing a bunch of dishes late at night AND waiting 90 minutes for the fucking Bosch, AND getting up in the morning and having to unload the fucking Bosch. Fill it up between courses, put stuff away, fill it up again. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I also love getting up in the morning to a sparkling clean kitchen with no dishes to unload. And my kids are pretty much growed up now, so no worries about accidental chaos with little ones.

Makes absolutely perfect sense to me.

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[QUOTE=oftpiste;5072176] I lived for years with cheap, American appliances and never once called the repairman. They know me by name at Appliance Service Center. /QUOTE]

I wondered about that ^^ also are the cheap american appliances are still as easy to fix/trouble free ?

but anyway, try breathing in and out ... just breathing

[BmillsSkier]

Much like the time-honored TGR question, "please consider the environment before printing this email", I'm surprised no one has considered "the help" in this important thread.

[AK47bp]

Bosch is not the tits IMO. Too many repairs, and they're stupid expensive to have fixed. Same with Sub-Z. My Bosch does not have a 30 minute cycle. I lived for years with cheap, American appliances and never once called the repairman. They know me by name at Appliance Service Center.

Yes, 1st world problem indeed.

For those who say I need to rethink life if I can't wait 90, perhaps that's true though I am rethinking life on a lot of levels right now, and the commercial DW is one of them.

Here's the thing: I'm a clean-as-you-go cook. I fucking hate having a bunch of pots, pans, cutting boards, mis en place containers, whiskers, graters, etc. laying about awaiting a cleanse, or even sitting on the drainboard drying while I'm making more dishes to wash.

Seems to me with a commercial machine, you throw everything in there as you use it (instead of washing that stuff by hand, drying it and stowing it several times in a prep process), hit the start button and 2 minutes later it comes out clean and dry, then put it away. Nothing has to pile up in the sink, just throw it in the under-counter. Repeat as necessary.

For a small group you load it with dishware after the meal, put it away while dessert is warming. Large group, no more worries about having too much stuff for the 90 minute dishwasher which virtually happens every time the group is 10+, and you end up hand washing a bunch of dishes late at night AND waiting 90 minutes for the fucking Bosch, AND getting up in the morning and having to unload the fucking Bosch. Fill it up between courses, put stuff away, fill it up again. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I also love getting up in the morning to a sparkling clean kitchen with no dishes to unload. And my kids are pretty much growed up now, so no worries about accidental chaos with little ones.

Makes absolutely perfect sense to me.

Oh my.

Adderall?

[oftpiste]

Jeez, do I sound that bad?

Perhaps it's the crazy shit going on in my life. Full disclosure to come.

[AK47bp]

I'm just kidding around but yes, a little manic. Reminds me of how I used to think when I took adderall (not prescribed to me)

[grskier]

Jeez, do I sound that bad?

Perhaps it's the crazy shit going on in my life. Full disclosure to come.

Yes...

Oh, and those dishes don't come out dry... at least not the commercial washers I've used.

[skaredshtles]

Jeez, do I sound that bad?

Perhaps it's the crazy shit going on in my life. Full disclosure to come.

I'd stay away from that prescription bullshit. Maybe weed?

[skaredshtles]

Yes...

Oh, and those dishes don't come out dry... at least not the commercial washers I've used.

IME they come out wet, but at 875* - so they dry pretty quickly.

[iceman]

Grohe sucks monkey balls, don't buy that shit please, I"ve thrown out about six high end grohe bullshit faucets lately, they all work, if anyone really wants one i'll mail the next one to you, some of them might be in my copper recycle pile though, so you could get one by friday if your lucky

Yeah I went around on this topic with someone on here a few years ago, they were saying Grohe doesn't work well with "American" water, which is obviously nutty since there's no such thing as standard water. I think it may be true that Grohe is affected by water with high mineral content, or there may be something else at play, I'm not sure what exactly.

In our case I have a house full of 18-year-old Grohe stuff that looks and works like new, and I've used it in 3 other major projects and I've literally never had an issue. So, I dunno. Opinions do vary on it, that's for sure.

Cruiser, there's two points of restriction, one is in the spray head, it's basically just a matter of popping out a plastic disk. That does improve flow but doesn't free it completely. The other is in the line, that's a matter of getting a different valve I believe.

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(the grohe you get at HD isn't the same as you might select at a bath/kitchen fixture showroom [& hansgrohe is a completely separate co])

[Mofro261]

Jeebus dude. I hope OCD doesnt run rampant in me when my kids leave the nest.

[Not Neil_Armstrong]

Fully commercial units are bad ass! Our friends at a camp they run have one. Sadly its a corner unit it's about 5' tall. Good luck I'd love to see what you come up with

[Norseman]

Build one, oft. New project.

[skaredshtles]

He's got a world class wine collection.

That's all fine and dandy, but weed should work better for his OCD proclivities.