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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    shit

    gorgeous younger girl mid 20s on our project was in a freak car wreck yesterday, died this morning.

    makes you wonder when your time will be up and why I'm even working this stupid job
    That's terrible.
    What a waste...

    I do think about the same thing quite often.
    Keep searching for the right balance between live in the moment and save it for the future.

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    Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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    I refuse to do less than 65.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Can't drive 55?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    I don't believe I've ever been in a William Burroughs kinda mood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I don't believe I've ever been in a William Burroughs kinda mood.
    Maybe it's time.

    https://youtu.be/u6kHN92Yv48

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceclimb View Post
    Wow, that really got a hold of me

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    Education must be the answer, we've tried ignorance and it doesn't work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceclimb View Post
    No I've been a junkie/addict/searcher/ lost person pretty much all my life, I pretty much understand all that. What i don't understand is how he wrote. How did he do it? I have no idea. In the ebb and flow of buzz and recovery there seems to be no room for the creative process, for me at least. If I could figure out how to write while impaired or, more importantly, recovering, I'd own you all by now. But I can't seem to do it.

    My conclusion is that Burroughs was a liar, a voyeur, a fraud. A fake. You can't be all the way in and still write. It's one or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    ...My conclusion is that Burroughs was a liar, a voyeur, a fraud. A fake. You can't be all the way in and still write. It's one or the other.
    That's an interesting take. I never thought of it that way, but like Jim Carroll, Burroughs' writing seems pretty authentic. I figure he lived what he wrote. I fished around for a quote and found this:
    I started to write in about 1950; I was thirty-five at the time; there didn't seem to be any strong motivation. I simply was endeavoring to put down in a more or less straightforward journalistic style something about my experiences with addiction and addicts.
    In keeping with the holiday theme, his take on Thanksgiving suits my mood:

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    No I've been a junkie/addict/searcher/ lost person pretty much all my life, I pretty much understand all that. What i don't understand is how he wrote. How did he do it? I have no idea. In the ebb and flow of buzz and recovery there seems to be no room for the creative process, for me at least. If I could figure out how to write while impaired or, more importantly, recovering, I'd own you all by now. But I can't seem to do it.

    My conclusion is that Burroughs was a liar, a voyeur, a fraud. A fake. You can't be all the way in and still write. It's one or the other.
    Hmmm. Does that sort of describe most of the beat generation? Or not? Ginzberg, Owsley, Dean Moriarty, Albert Hoffman, Gary Snyder, Tyrone Slrothrop?

    Besides, I don't really believe that you'd really be unable to honk down some dark splat about existence, women and the greater cosmos.
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    it never occurred to me that burroughs could be "fake." i think it would be difficult to write what he wrote without being there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    No I've been a junkie/addict/searcher/ lost person pretty much all my life, I pretty much understand all that. What i don't understand is how he wrote. How did he do it? I have no idea. In the ebb and flow of buzz and recovery there seems to be no room for the creative process, for me at least. If I could figure out how to write while impaired or, more importantly, recovering, I'd own you all by now. But I can't seem to do it.

    My conclusion is that Burroughs was a liar, a voyeur, a fraud. A fake. You can't be all the way in and still write. It's one or the other.
    I go back and forth on that. I know a fair number of writers and addicts of different kinds, and they can be stupid productive at really high levels. But my reason for disagreeing isn't that.

    I'm good friends with some of Hunter S's good friends, confidants, even landlords. I have always felt just what you describe above about him.... no way you can be that altered and write that way. But he did, and no one who knew him can explain it.

    Perhaps the link between the divine and the sublime? Or as one friend of his said, there is some stubbornness that can't be destroyed.

    For some those addictions are distraction, for others fuel.

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    Booze is some men's jet-A.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Well hello again,

    I still call it The Jake.

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    ^^^^ this today for me.

    it's fall in most of the lower 48 now, still breaking thru 90 here in Texas.
    TGR forums cannot handle SkiCougar !

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    Miserable
    Decisions Decisions

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    tough week.... tough year......

    need snow

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    Pensive. Lost a cool uncle and a sweet aunt this week.

    Life...

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    ^Thiz. Things have gone batshit insane at work. Feels like the place is imploding. I sure hope some semblance of sanity returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    ^Thiz. Things have gone batshit insane at work. Feels like the place is imploding. I sure hope some semblance of sanity returns.
    welcome to my last 7 months

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    Giddy. I just heard Pio might be back.
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