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Thread: Tubeless flat on trail
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06-02-2017, 08:38 AM #26Registered User
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Another plug option https://www.genuineinnovations.com/u...lesstackle.php They have just a plug kit too but this is pretty useful. Plugs, valves and a valve core tool.
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06-02-2017, 08:39 AM #27
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06-02-2017, 09:28 AM #28
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06-02-2017, 10:26 AM #29"Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. The winds will blow their freshness into you, and the storms, their energy. Your cares and tensions will drop away like the leaves of Autumn." --John Muir
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06-02-2017, 01:31 PM #30
I've been using these for several years now. Those are pretty long so I cut them in half and get twice as many. Cheap and work great. You can get car ones from Autozone or wherever too and cut them into various thicknesses. Gotta be careful they'll still fit through the tool though.
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06-02-2017, 06:18 PM #31Registered User
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06-02-2017, 06:37 PM #32
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06-02-2017, 08:42 PM #33
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06-03-2017, 10:24 AM #34Registered User
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Unfortunately this is the reason that I have not gone with a tubeless system in either my MTB or dirtbike. You still need to bring a tube out + patch/plug kit, which is more than just bringing a goddamn tube.
I get the advantage of running tubeless on both setups, but I cant bring myself to spend more money AND bring more gear out into the backcountry. To each his own.
Have DH MTB's come out with a mousse yet?
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06-03-2017, 11:41 AM #35
It's really not that big a deal. I bring a pump. It comes in handy sometimes. If I was going on a longer backcountry ride, I might bring a tube.
I guess it depends how many sharp rocks live near you.
I think a lot of problems with tubeless come from people thinking they can run super low pressures. I still run up around 30. Really.
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06-03-2017, 06:22 PM #36
I run 20-22 lbs most of the time unless were riding our powder run, then I'll bump up to 25-28. But I have no issues at all with tubeless. Never going back to tubes. I do carry a tube and pump and have used it once when I blew a sidewall. I have a little bit of tape with me also for that reason, running tube or tubeless just to limp home.
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06-04-2017, 03:48 PM #37
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06-04-2017, 03:50 PM #38
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06-04-2017, 03:56 PM #39
Yes, typically. That's why everybody was surprised by the thread. Normally if the sealant can't steal the hole, you can put a tube in and ride home.
Like many on here, I carry a tube to fix the issue if the hole or tear is to big for sealant, but in 3-4 years of running tubeless I've never had to use that tube. Typically my issues with tubeless start and end at the house when I check pressure before I ride. If I notice that I'm frequently having to add pressure I add more sealant which usually solves the issue without having to pull the tire.
Seth
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06-04-2017, 04:27 PM #40
That's it for me too. In one of my saddle bags I carry a chunk of sticky rubber thing that's supposed to cover a bigger hole than the sealant can seal, but I've never used it. A friend got a huge tear and rammed a Balsam Arrowleaf leaf in there and it worked. A dollar bill works as well. I may take a look at those plugs, and if small enough may ram one in the saddle bag.
Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
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06-04-2017, 04:31 PM #41
I have sub-20mm rims, so low psi isn't an option. Even if I had wider rims there's no way a 200lb person on a hardtail is going below 25. Going with a thicker casing, and therefore heavier tire, would gain me nothing since I'm riding the kind of trails a hardtail is good on.
Then I go to a bike shop and sometimes all they have is the heavier version of tires because "people are tearing the sidewall". Yeah, fuck off. Put more than 12psi in, spandex squid.
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06-04-2017, 09:33 PM #42
Sounds like I'm about the same size as stucky. I run about 25 psi front and rear. I have new (to me) tires generously donated by Toast and an just in the process of dialing in the pressure. Minion DHF up front and an Aggressor in the back. I notice both the increased traction - especially cornering - as well as the increased rolling resistance.
I also have sub-20mm (internal) rims.
Seth
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06-05-2017, 10:39 AM #43
Air up, so it rolls better and yes, not as squirrelly at speed. Air down for traction. Where we ride mostly is techy short steep ups on granite slabs, knife edge stuff, and rock ups we've placed...plus it rains a lot. Traction is super important to me. Of course now we're adding some flowier higher speed stuff in this area...so now I'm fucked.
And this...it really depends on your weight too. I'm down like 5lbs ty to 170 plus pack with water. 20-22lbs is the lowest I'll run.
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06-05-2017, 10:39 AM #44
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06-05-2017, 10:45 AM #45Banned
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This clown hasn't ever done any "longer backcountry riding," he gets winded at 15 mins on flat pavement running an easy 10mph.
Go on and think he knows what he talks of, though. That's what TGR is for, eh? Pretense, high pretense, ultimate pretense!
It's easier to simply read kidwoo's posts, because that's what stuckie memorizes and regurgitates for things like the above.
He doesn't know them from experience.
All praise the "heroes" who are in MTB the equivalent of Bunny Hill Bandits in skiing.
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06-05-2017, 12:15 PM #46
I really hope that at some point it is revealed that Creaky and Stucky are actually the same person.
The "squirm" on cornering is how I adjust my tire pressure also. I want enough pressure to eliminate the squirm on hard cornering, but not too much more than that. I could certainly do with a little more testing, however.
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06-05-2017, 04:41 PM #47Banned
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son, that's not even remotely possible, and not even half-a-smirk sorta-funny. he literally is a fat loaf who talks a massive game while possessing no skills. it's pathetic, really -- because he's not humble at all on line, whereas in meatspace he's a sniveling whiny fuck.
if he was retarded, or 6 years old, I'd cut him a metric tonne of slack and wouldn't ever insult him. but instead he's apparently a guy with multiple mental health disorders on a daily cocktail of anti-psychotics and anti-schizophrenic Rx. which he attempts to palliate by playing Mr Honch on TGR.
when I met him to give him a seatpost for the mild cost of 6 Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, I learned he was this clown I'd met on a group ride around 2013-ish, who had a TGR sticker on his top tube of his beater, and I asked him which asshole he was in Maggotland. the coward said, "I don't post on TGR" while quivering in fear. I responded, "sure, you poseur fuck, you fat piece of shit. sure."
I didn't mention that when he came by to get the seatpost, and I didn't even mention it when I agreed to go on a MTB ride with him, which is where I learned his mechanical ineptitude was surpassed only by his MTB skills deficiency and general fitness absence.
I'd find it funny if the guy who picked up the seatpost, went on a ride with me later, and was on that group ride about 5 years back was NOT "stuckathuntermtn" but instead it was all a complex practical joke played on me.
but it wasn't.
I do have an old GF who knows you, though. she lives in Boise now.
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06-05-2017, 05:38 PM #48Registered User
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good thread.
i've been tubeless about 8-9 years or so, love it.
but i still get occasional flat with it (WAY less than with tubes). once in awhile i get a tear right by the bead, stans never works then. i do long solo backcountry rides sometimes so i take a tube, plugs(just got them, never used yet) and a small tube of superglue (used that once to seal up a hole).
as far a mounting, i don't even try with a floor pump anymore, straight to compressor with valve stem removed.
hats off to the lucky ones that get by with floor pump only.
tubeless and seat dropper, 2 awesome advancements!
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06-05-2017, 09:31 PM #49
Come on. You have to admit that it'd actually be really funny. Two internet guys who loathe each other and write all kinds of crap about each other... Then finding out they were the same... Okay, I'll give you that one. Not really THAT funny. But still kinda funny. :-)
Who's the GF? Have you and I ever met?
Seth
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06-05-2017, 09:46 PM #50
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