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Thread: Tubeless flat on trail
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06-01-2017, 02:56 PM #1
Tubeless flat on trail
Changing a tubeless away from home. I had a spare tire, a bit of stan's, my tire tool but no soapy water. Bead established and new tire inflated. When the day is done, do I need to uninflate tire, undo bead and spray with soapy water? This bike JONG wants to know.
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06-01-2017, 03:04 PM #2
Why would you do that? The soapy water is just lubrication to get the tire on the bead easier.
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06-01-2017, 03:07 PM #3
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06-01-2017, 04:44 PM #4
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06-01-2017, 04:52 PM #5
Yeah, because it went flat.
Regarding the soap, someone told me that it helped keep the bead. Changing tubeless on the trail is kinda new to me.“How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix
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06-01-2017, 04:56 PM #6
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06-01-2017, 04:59 PM #7
I know that it is kinda stupid, but I thought I'd ask any way. Nothing better to do
“How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix
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06-01-2017, 05:01 PM #8
OK, so next time you see this person, you should slap them. Actually, first you should get a sheet of aluminum, pour soapy water all over it, have them put on some rubber-soled shoes and take a running start at it and then tell you if the soapy water helped them stick to it or not. Then slap them.
Just put a fucking tube in and be on your way. Fix it proper when you get home.
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06-01-2017, 05:03 PM #9
You keep a spare tire in your pack instead of a tube? And a bottle of Stans? And you reset a tubeless bead in the backcountry with a min-pump? FKNA, You're the man!
In the future though, it may be easier/lighter to carry a spare tube, pull the tubeless core and go old school until you get home where you can redo tubeless.
The only thing I think soapy water does is create some extra resistance to the air escaping around the bead, thus building up more pressure behind the tire, thus allowing the bead to set up. Rim & tire profiles do most of the rest, sealant gets you that final push, but does not attach the bead to the rim. It's more to fix the imperfections in tire/rim tolerances, weepy rubber, vulnerabilities in taping and valve hole.However many are in a shit ton.
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06-01-2017, 05:07 PM #10Registered User
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Definitely carry a tube for this. I carry a 26" tube for this reason (which works for 26, 27.5, and 29"), but it usually gets used to bail someone else out rather than me.
Pro tip: make sure your tubeless stems are not so )$*&#)(*&* tight that you cannot remove them on the trail without tools sitting in your garage, or the tube is like tits on a bull.
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06-01-2017, 05:12 PM #11
Right on. I just didn't have a tube. I never carry a spare tubeless. I just bought a tire and some Stan's a couple days ago, and they were still in my pack (shopping bag). THE GOD'S MUST BE CRAZY!
“How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix
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06-01-2017, 05:15 PM #12
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06-01-2017, 05:20 PM #13
I didn't even think of that, probably because I didn't know that Stan's seals that quickly. I'm just going to chalk this up to a thread I wish I never started.
“How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix
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06-01-2017, 05:23 PM #14
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06-01-2017, 07:42 PM #15
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06-01-2017, 08:09 PM #16
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06-01-2017, 08:32 PM #17
I've been running tubeless for years now and I've never had to use soapy water ever to mount my tires. Meh.
Also, I don't use straight Stans anymore. I actually use a 50/50ish mix of CaffeLatex and art molding latex. The molding latex is much thicker than the regular tubeless latex solutions, which should theoretically seal punctures that the thinner regular tubeless solutions don't work on. Also, the CaffeLatex foams while your tire is spinning so it should coat better. I've had amazing luck with that setup for years now."I knew in an instant that the three dollars I had spent on wine would not go to waste."
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06-01-2017, 09:40 PM #18
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06-01-2017, 10:15 PM #19
Carry a tube only for when a plug doesn't work. Plugs fix 90%+ of flats on the trail. No unseating/reseating your bead. No mess. Takes 30 seconds. Plug, pump, go. I'll use two sometimes if There's a bigger hole that won't seal. Generally lasts the life of the tire.
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06-01-2017, 10:58 PM #20
Recommend a plug for me...plugboots, thanks.
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06-01-2017, 11:26 PM #21
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06-02-2017, 12:24 AM #22
Interested in this plug thing, although I haven't had situation where it would have helped me so far. The one puncture I got in the tread did actually seal itself. But the last two were pinch flats that put good sized cuts in the tire. I had to put a tube in, and then clean out the tire and put patches on the inside, which has been holding up pretty well.
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06-02-2017, 03:59 AM #23
One plug option
http://www.dynaplug.com/carbonbike.html
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06-02-2017, 05:15 AM #24
^^^Looks cool, but "The Carbon Ultralite Bicycle Edition is molded in Glass-Filled Nylon" so clearly unrideable.
Interesting thread, though, thanks!
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06-02-2017, 07:25 AM #25
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