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  1. #26
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    A good solar aspect will make a huge difference in heating. Same goes for orientation of the cabin in relation to the sun.
    There is one for sale just outta town up here... pretty funny that it is off the grid yet built under the grid.
    I don't work and I don't save, desperate women pay my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    No mention of location or any constraints makes it hard to focus.
    I don't have a fixed location. I have locations in mind, but no site purchased partially because I don't know enough about what I'd like to build to figure out the site restrictions to build the place I'd like.

    thought this place kinda interesting, but only 2-3 season https://www.dwell.com/article/a-tiny...taway-308ad0af

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    I don't have a fixed location. I have locations in mind, but no site purchased partially because I don't know enough about what I'd like to build to figure out the site restrictions to build the place I'd like.

    thought this place kinda interesting, but only 2-3 season https://www.dwell.com/article/a-tiny...taway-308ad0af
    Pillows from West Elm and Crate and Barrel certainly are necessary items!

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    I bet they spent 200 grand building that place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I bet they spent 200 grand building that place.
    No doubt. Seems once you get beyond a standard of living past the 70's, economies of scales are fucked until you hit over 1000sqft. I know trappers that can build a 400sqft cabin in one month for well under $15000 in non-local materials plus local timbers, but that is no longer the standard when discussing 'cabin' anymore.

  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I bet they spent 200 grand building that place.
    In the 90s? Now, probably, if you have a place built that's kinda the game. Even this place wouldn't be cheap to have someone build
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  7. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronWright View Post
    I've been eyeing this off the grid place 15 minutes from here
    http://www.century21.com/property/49...01-C2180091109
    I could live full time at a place like this.
    That seems like a pretty cool place, if you ask me.

  8. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    In the 90s? Now, probably, if you have a place built that's kinda the game. Even this place wouldn't be cheap to have someone build
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    200 grand and there's nothing to the place. No septic, no furnace, no real plumbing system at all, I doubt it's insulated much (could be wrong on that). Of course building it on a rock 20 miles offshore added to that. Could be 300 grand.

    The place in the pic you posted above you could build for less than 50 grand or you're doing it way wrong.

    edit: brick fireplace and chimney would make that hard to do under 50K but who would do that now? Woodstove and a pipe chimney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    In the 90s? Now, probably, if you have a place built that's kinda the game. Even this place wouldn't be cheap to have someone build
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    I feel like I've seen this... like every day, but can't place it?

    Why not build something that generates income?



    Franchises available out west, too:

    Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    I feel like I've seen this... like every day, but can't place it?
    Is it Thoreau's place at Walden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Is it Thoreau's place at Walden?
    Yes... the replica. Right along Rt. 126.

    Very cool premise, etc., but the guy went home every Sunday for a home cooked meal. Kind of like my friend's kid who is actually trying the "homeless person experience" in a NYC park with a $3000 tent, prepaid cell phone, health insurance and gym membership.

    ... not that I blame him.
    Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!

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    I'm all for kids experiencing shit but the phone would be dead the first day. And I ain't buying the tent. Other than that, have at it.

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    I built this 12' x 16' for $9k (and a bottle of scotch), but it's still unfinished. Shower is inside, but plan is to have small bathroom, kitchen, living room and bed loft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    I had read that the closed cell was the best R value for the inside insulation.
    Yes, closed cell is the best per inch for R value. If you use foam or super insulate, you'll want to install an HRV air exchanger, too. Not a huge expense, but definitely good to have.
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    Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!

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    Big Daddy, is the floor insulated?

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    No, no insulation yet. I plan to spray poly foam. I did my 850 sq ft cabin that way and it works great. Keeps mice out, too... which is huge.
    Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!

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    Any floor plumbing?

    [Sorry, ignore this -- answer is yes]

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    OP, did you end up doing anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    OP, did you end up doing anything?
    still searching for a site & life has got in the way so not yet.

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    I haven't read thru the thread but coincidentally I was just thinking using hardiboard or some other cement type wall construction instead of plywood sheeting could help w reduce mice and up the R values inside too. Anyone done that/Worth the effort?

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    I think James Hardie does certify Hardie panel for shear walls, but Iíve never used it as a sheathing (and frankly donít really trust it at that thickness for shear or for impact). If you pursue it, review your structural design criteria against the product literature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    I think James Hardie does certify Hardie panel for shear walls, but Iíve never used it as a sheathing (and frankly donít really trust it at that thickness for shear or for impact). If you pursue it, review your structural design criteria against the product literature.
    Not everyone is stfu &gbtw. Extreme shear is not at every site. However, yes, review it first.

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    get the neck snappy mouse traps and peanut butter bait
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    Carl is moving out of his moms basement?
    watch out for snakes

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