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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    Regardless of their argument to try and shift blame, these adventure athletes have fucking gigantic carbon footprints and are solely able to do what they do because they are promoting the consumption of products that further harm the environment. Whether that is goRVing.com or Patagucci is irrelevant. Their entire existence is based upon promoting more consumption. It is massively hypocritical of them, and pretty much everyone sees through it, no one believes you went and hiked Everest for any other reason than you thought it would be (and no doubt is) awesome.
    Well put...

    What irks me, is the hypocrisy of using "environmentalism" to sell products. Just go back to Mike Douglas's IG post mentioned earlier. Of course he couldn't post that without tagging Salomon in the text. My challenge to people like him, is to use the same boots, skis, poles, jackets, pants, gloves, helmet, and goggles for three seasons, and promote this type of consumerism to their followers.

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    ^^^ This, It is not CG or Douglas or skiing. It is the cadre of instagram "stars" promoting themselves and their Brands related to every sport/lifestyle.

    If I sound jealous, I am not.

    Just getting old, jaded and crotchety I suppose.

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    The pro's could take that ^^ free gear and give it to a homeless person, would that make it more righteous ?

    I was driving home with a buddy and the big name movie maker, he is dicking with the phone and from the back seat i hear him tell my buddy " I ordered you the gortex & puffy inXXL and some 189's "

    BUT I WASN'T JEALOUS

    not my brand eh
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    Anyone that thinks Park City is awesome is a pretentious self important moron.

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    The irksome hypocrisy is not caring about climate change while being professional outdoor adventures. The hypocrisy that really gets to me is pretending they are doing all these adventures for some cause. Bullfuckingshit. I sincerely doubt CG would have passed up an Everest trip if the climate wasn’t threatened, or their was parity in men’s and women’s athletes. She climbed it for the same reason every other tourist climber does; it’s there. Be proud of the summit; it’s impressive, but leave the ‘cause’ bullshit behind. The insincerity of her actions is what is counterproductive to her positions or values and causes others to dismiss her concerns.

    What, if any, measurable changes have professional skiers made to fight global warming?

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    You can rag on pro skiers all you want but some have raised awareness of climate change to never before seen levels. I've been told this is a great accomplishment for mankind.

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    The man has a very dull ace to grind, and such a finely-honed indignation that he takes endless delight in listening to as it echoes over the lofty mountains if the inner tubes. Pure as the driven snow, all his motives: can we elect him to some worthy position?


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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    What, if any, measurable changes have professional skiers made to fight global warming?
    Encouraged the convinced in their conviction and encouraged the unconvinced that it's all bullshit.

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    immna start posting creepy pics of some stranger in hope of getting this thread nuked.

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    Does this work? I don't hate CG, she hung with Liz Daley who is one of my favorite people I haven't met. We can pretend I snapped it without them knowing.

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    yeah cool sure

    meanwhile,

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post

    meanwhile,
    hey our rivers are dirty and need love
    maybe see ya smjw brand ambassadors and fartsniffer following activists there
    ifin ya really care
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    ski on in eternal peace

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    pretty sure most of you boys can't keep up with this.

    .emiliedrinkwater.

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    i'll be out.

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    where the fuck is klar btw?

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    to all the bad ass women, girls, mom's, daughters,

    "fuck you, i won't do what you tell me."

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    Pretty sure Rage Against the Machine had bigger fish to fry with that one. Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses.

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    Caroline Gleich Harrassment Story

    Her climb of Everest was not for the environment but for women’s equality in summiting 8000m Peaks. Did it tip the scales? Is Everest now flooded with females?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    What, if any, measurable changes have professional skiers made to fight global warming?

    Somewhere there’s a 12 year-old who thinks working on solving global warming is a worthy goal because cool people like Jeremy Jones and Caroline Gleich are into it. Maybe that kid goes to engineering school and makes a major contribution to the real behind-the-scenes tech work.

    Is that so hard to imagine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Her climb of Everest was not for the environment but for women’s equality in summiting 8000m Peaks. Did it tip the scales? Is Everest now flooded with females?
    Maybe it’s part of a longer slower change we might better appreciate in the fullness of time. I think history is full of these moments where you might not have seen instant change, but decades later you talk to people who say “I saw that and it changed my point of view”
    Maybe some girls see this and think “yeah, I can be a mountaineer” and 10 years from now you’ll hear them talking about how Caroline showed them thry could do it.

    This whole point of view that either the world instantaneously, demonstrably changed right now or the thing was hypocritical and worthless is a false dichotomy rooted in a short-sighted point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post

    This whole point of view that either the world instantaneously, demonstrably changed right now or the thing was hypocritical and worthless is a false dichotomy rooted in a short-sighted point of view.
    +1
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    Most instagram posts form the young 20 year olds are TLDR material. It's kind of like they think that their lives are so darn important that they should write half a novel every other day. That's ok, they're young. I just keep swiping.

    I've been managing the young 20 something year olds the last few months doing conservation/trail work and it's taken me a little bit to figure em out. Their really good kids, just a different generation and it's taken some adjustment for me. You definitely do see the affects of the helicopter parenting and participation awards tho!

    Most of the expeditions to raise awareness or for this or that cause kind of stink like bullshit to me, it's just an excuse to do a self serving activity but make yourself look more "woke" or whatever. Maybe it makes their sponsors happy but it still is bullshit. If I were one of them and could score some free gear and trips I'd probably do the same though .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Maybe some girls see this and think “yeah, I can be a mountaineer” and 10 years from now you’ll hear them talking about how Caroline showed them thry could do it.
    There is a lot of truth in this. Lots of women, POC, queer folk, etc talk about never seeing themselves included in the outdoors so it makes them hesitant to participate. More diversity is good, and that comes from more people feeling represented.

    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Maybe it makes their sponsors happy but it still is bullshit. If I were one of them and could score some free gear and trips I'd probably do the same though .
    Making sponsors happy so you can continue to do the things you want to do seems like a great business model to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    POC, queer folk, etc


    POC queer folk?

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    Look I hate racers as much as the next guy but that’s just uncalled for!

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