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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Steph Davis lost her Patagonia sponsorship just because she was connected to Dean. Between the two of them they went from 100k a year to zero overnight, and the resulting financial stress contributed to the demise of their marriage. Anyway, OT.
    That's an interesting story. It sounds like they were doomed from the beginning though. Maybe the birdhunter is going to suggest next that Meadowskipper start base jumping with Steph Davis.

    I tried to copy and paste Steph Davis's Wiki page in here but it's not working. You kooks no your way around the interwebs good enough on your own anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    So maybe we should be judging people on what they actually do, instead of what they have? And FWIW, I'm going to represent with the people that had to work really hard to get what I have.
    Legit point. My post apparently was WAY too broad of a stroke but I've experienced enough from some people to have formed that opinion but you can't stereotype everyone obviously.
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    I have other people to feel sorry for, she needs to hulk up and learn to ignore stupid people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Couch surf and ski a lot, then boom. All the money in the world. Tell that to the TGR athletes I’ve seen tending bar.

    It’s great and all but what happens after the fun, when you’re 45, no nest egg and no sponsors.
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    Ha! Now we are going there?

    I can attest, it's not that much fun to be a 40 something year old ski bum that doesn't have anything else going on or something that you're working towards. Maybe there are some people that are happy to be that guy for ever but it sure ain't me.

    Skiing is awesome but it's not everything. Life is filled with varied and unique experiences, I'd hate to spend my whole life doing the same or same couple of things all of the time.
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    very strange to me that slc (where < 20% of people do any snowsports) is included alongside places like telluride. interesting read though

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    I tried to copy and paste Steph Davis's Wiki page in here but it's not working. You kooks no your way around the interwebs good enough on your own anyways.
    She writes about it in her books High Infatuation and Learning to Fly. Both great reads IMO. I always thought Patagonia handled that poorly. Isn't it sexist or something to axe the wife just because of the husband's misdeeds? I mean it's hard for me to imagine a better ambassador for a brand like Patagonia than Steph Davis. She's cool af.

    On the other hand, none of these athletes are indispensable to these companies. CG attacking the credibility of mountain professionals who are supposedly just doing their jobs isn't really a look Patagonia wants to embrace. I bet there's some handwringing at headquarters over the whole thing. I'm guessing they view their continuing popularity among the outdoor instructors/guides of the world to be worth a lot more than the services of one Caroline Gleich. Plenty of other credible female skiers out there who could take her place.

    Not saying she doesn't have a point--the instructor never should have let his personal feelings about her professional life and social media presence enter into the evaluation. He should have stuck to the specifics of her performance in the course. That said, as somebody who taught high school for a couple years, kids complaining about their grades rings a bit hollow to me. I occasionally raised a grade if a kid came and made a well reasoned argument, but if they came into the discussion trying to blame me for their grade, that was a nonstarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    CG attacking the credibility of mountain professionals who are supposedly just doing their jobs isn't really a look Patagonia wants to embrace. I bet there's some handwringing at headquarters over the whole thing. I'm guessing they view their continuing popularity among the outdoor instructors/guides of the world to be worth a lot more than the services of one Caroline Gleich. Plenty of other credible female skiers out there who could take her place.
    Patagonia sells a lot more to suburban and urban women than they do to guides, and lots of those women pay retail and buy new gear every year or two rather than buying pro form and wearing it for 10+ years. I bet a lot of those women can identify with CG's comments about being dismissed and patronized in a male dominated field.

    And those who say "she should shut up and ski" are missing the point - at least with respect to sponsors (especially Patagonia). Sponsors want press and exposure, they don't get anything out of someone who just quietly does stuff. And Patagonia is basically the archetype of an activist company that pushes for social and environmental causes - why wouldn't they want their athlete representatives doing the same? (As long as the causes are aligned, but I think they are here.)

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    McLean is a subversive agent employed by a shadowy Intermountain West ski industry crime group! He has defrauded the skiers of the world, making them believe there are actually steep snow slopes in the Wasatch! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

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    The real tragedy is that CG definitely has received some creepy/weird texts that would be hilarious if made public but I'm sure her sponsors would not be happy if she were to humiliate potential customers.

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    It could always be more annoying:
    https://www.adventure-journal.com/20...ng-popularity/

    ".. it’s also about challenging the values of the dominant outdoors culture. For instance, it’s common for outdoorspeople to share stories of “conquering” a mountain or “crushing” a boulder problem — language that makes Bruso uncomfortable. “We’re talking about the land like it’s our playground, but people were displaced for it,” she said...."
    When life gives you haters, make haterade.

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    ^ lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiitsbetter View Post
    The real tragedy is that CG definitely has received some creepy/weird texts that would be hilarious if made public but I'm sure her sponsors would not be happy if she were to humiliate potential customers.
    She should make them public. Just out the fuckers on social media, like Sasha D did to Joe Kinder. That guy got exactly what he deserved. I mean who posts or sends shit like that? It's pretty twisted. Not to mention stupid in this day and age to think you can get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    Off topic but please tell me more about these 3k vert runs in the 'satch, I have yet to find one that's not interrupted by 3 flat benches...
    Basically every south facing ski line in lcc from superior to lisa falls + y couloir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teledad View Post
    in case any you wanna be pros missed it
    the important
    sniff other pros farts and give them props for there fragrance lessons in the comments
    i do give him credit for the book
    and the us against them
    mentality of the satch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    oh and
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    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
    "I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    oh and
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    SFB brings the comedy gold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Couch surf and ski a lot, then boom. All the money in the world. Tell that to the TGR athletes I’ve seen tending bar.

    It’s great and all but what happens after the fun, when you’re 45, no nest egg and no sponsors.
    Yes to this. Extreme athletes are just that. Even in their partying and drugs. So many guys so ill equipped by life lessons thrown into a lime light in their niche only to be cast aside when injured, or too stoned to make the shoot on time. Cue 15 more guys washing dishes or coach surfing while waiting for their chance.

    Make your living Climbing or Skiing. Consider yourself lucky and hopefully someone around you is giving some thought to you about what is next. Your one stupid tweet or caught edge at the wrong time away from having to rethink your dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alto View Post
    McLean is a subversive agent employed by a shadowy Intermountain West ski industry crime group! He has defrauded the skiers of the world, making them believe there are actually steep snow slopes in the Wasatch! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    ^ lol
    dido. Trying change our vocabulary?
    the fucking control freaks can stay away from skiing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickturd View Post
    If you have rent, bills and the general day-to-day stresses of life (like health insurance) erased by magical monthly deposits into your bank account then you can concentrate on growing your social metrics and brand online rather than going to work. I have no proof of this but I liken a pro skier to be like a freshman in college: you don't really live in reality and everything you do goes towards some dream of yours. I'm not saying that having dreams are a bad thing but skiing—in any form— is a selfish pursuit, a vanity.
    I'll just do a quick drop in here to refute this little so often held belief. The reason tons of people think pro skiers don't have the same day-to-day stresses is because one, we do our job well and make you believe that it's all powder snow and blue skies at all times, and two, because if we post/talk/mention any sort of stress, normalcy of life, relation to anyone with a 9-5, people jump on us like rabid dogs saying "we're whiny little brats" that somehow have managed to escape the constraints of society like bills, rent and health insurance. Don't get me wrong, this job is the best job I could ever imagine, something I dreamed of as a kid and am still in disbelief that I get to do as my career. Wouldn't trade it for millions upon millions of dollars. But here's the thing, it's still a job and the people that rise to the top, the people you discuss and see, have worked their asses off to get there...you just don't get to see that part. Most pro skiers at some point were dead broke, living in broom closet rooms with 8 other ski bums in unaffordable ski towns, trying to survive the winter on either a part-time minimum wage job or the three thousand dollar check from their one sponsor that actually pays. I'm not going to go into my personal work, stresses or hardships, but there is one quote that often best sums up being a pro skier said by Parker White, "I'm one more knee surgery away from being a janitor."

    So in relation to CG, she works fucking hard at what she does and because of that is why there is this asinine thread about her. If she didn't, she'd just be another skier out there having fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    I'll just do a quick drop in here to refute this little so often held belief. The reason tons of people think pro skiers don't have the same day-to-day stresses is because one, we do our job well and make you believe that it's all powder snow and blue skies at all times, and two, because if we post/talk/mention any sort of stress, normalcy of life, relation to anyone with a 9-5, people jump on us like rabid dogs saying "we're whiny little brats" that somehow have managed to escape the constraints of society like bills, rent and health insurance. Don't get me wrong, this job is the best job I could ever imagine, something I dreamed of as a kid and am still in disbelief that I get to do as my career. Wouldn't trade it for millions upon millions of dollars. But here's the thing, it's still a job and the people that rise to the top, the people you discuss and see, have worked their asses off to get there...you just don't get to see that part. Most pro skiers at some point were dead broke, living in broom closet rooms with 8 other ski bums in unaffordable ski towns, trying to survive the winter on either a part-time minimum wage job or the three thousand dollar check from their one sponsor that actually pays. I'm not going to go into my personal work, stresses or hardships, but there is one quote that often best sums up being a pro skier said by Parker White, "I'm one more knee surgery away from being a janitor."

    So in relation to CG, she works fucking hard at what she does and because of that is why there is this asinine thread about her. If she didn't, she'd just be another skier out there having fun.
    I am glad that you have done as well as you have.

    I have never seen a thread like this about you or your wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    I'll just do a quick drop in here to refute this little so often held belief. The reason tons of people think pro skiers don't have the same day-to-day stresses is because one, we do our job well and make you believe that it's all powder snow and blue skies at all times, and two, because if we post/talk/mention any sort of stress, normalcy of life, relation to anyone with a 9-5, people jump on us like rabid dogs saying "we're whiny little brats" that somehow have managed to escape the constraints of society like bills, rent and health insurance. Don't get me wrong, this job is the best job I could ever imagine, something I dreamed of as a kid and am still in disbelief that I get to do as my career. Wouldn't trade it for millions upon millions of dollars. But here's the thing, it's still a job and the people that rise to the top, the people you discuss and see, have worked their asses off to get there...you just don't get to see that part. Most pro skiers at some point were dead broke, living in broom closet rooms with 8 other ski bums in unaffordable ski towns, trying to survive the winter on either a part-time minimum wage job or the three thousand dollar check from their one sponsor that actually pays. I'm not going to go into my personal work, stresses or hardships, but there is one quote that often best sums up being a pro skier said by Parker White, "I'm one more knee surgery away from being a janitor."

    So in relation to CG, she works fucking hard at what she does and because of that is why there is this asinine thread about her. If she didn't, she'd just be another skier out there having fun.
    Since this is the harassment thread, ask your wife to post more surf shots of her on IG ... and get a bigger dog...that lil dude can't even hold a gopro mount

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