Caroline Gleich Harrassment Story

**::: :::** · 06-09-2018, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by sickturd

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I haven’t really tracked this story but I’ve seen this issue of family money brought up in this thread a couple times as if it was a problem

Is this a real issue?
How so?

**yeahman** · 06-09-2018, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by acinpdx

I haven’t really tracked this story but I’ve seen this issue of family money brought up in this thread a couple times as if it was a problem

Is this a real issue?
How so?

As far as I can gather she's been working as a model since she was 18 and has never stopped working. She's a Patagonia ambassador FFS, they actually do pay their athletes some coin.

If anybody has any proof of her so-called trust fund I'd like to see it.

**wyeaster** · 06-09-2018, 05:46 PM

i thought there were too many trustfunders here for that to feel anything but normal. i doubt her dad built a school in africa tho.

**The SnowShow** · 06-09-2018, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by yeahman

As far as I can gather she's been working as a model since she was 18 and has never stopped working. She's a Patagonia ambassador FFS, they actually do pay their athletes some coin.

If anybody has any proof of her so-called trust fund I'd like to see it.

How much does Patty pay their ambassadors?

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-09-2018, 07:23 PM

Do people really lose all credibility and moral ground if they have a trust fund?

**yeahman** · 06-09-2018, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

How much does Patty pay their ambassadors?

Average 70k per year. I remember reading Dean Potter was pulling down 50 or 60 when he climbed that oh-so-sacred rock in Utah and lost his gig with them.

https://www.paysa.com/salaries/patag...and-ambassador

**The SnowShow** · 06-10-2018, 08:38 AM

How long does ambassadorship typically last for an athlete like her? A decade?

**Skidog** · 06-10-2018, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

How long does ambassadorship typically last for an athlete like her? A decade?

I would guess as long as she stays relevant. She's into the whole environment deal, going to DC to lobby, etc. That's Patagonias mission statement basically. She will have a good run I bet.

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**The SnowShow** · 06-10-2018, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Skidog

I would guess as long as she stays relevant. She's into the whole environment deal, going to DC to lobby, etc. That's Patagonias mission statement basically. She will have a good run I bet.

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Great for her.

She doesn’t seem to jet set as much as other mountain athletes but I find it annoying when many preach on and on about the environment and spend 300 days traveling all over the world, with huge carbon footprints.

**#######** · 06-10-2018, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by acinpdx

I haven’t really tracked this story but I’ve seen this issue of family money brought up in this thread a couple times as if it was a problem

Is this a real issue?
How so?

If you have rent, bills and the general day-to-day stresses of life (like health insurance) erased by magical monthly deposits into your bank account then you can concentrate on growing your social metrics and brand online rather than going to work. I have no proof of this but I liken a pro skier to be like a freshman in college: you don't really live in reality and everything you do goes towards some dream of yours. I'm not saying that having dreams are a bad thing but skiing—in any form— is a selfish pursuit, a vanity.

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-10-2018, 11:33 AM

Let me point out why I think most of this CG criticism is sour grapes (or worse):

Originally Posted by sickturd

If you have rent, bills and the general day-to-day stresses of life (like health insurance) erased by magical monthly deposits into your bank account then you can concentrate on growing your social metrics and brand online rather than going to work.

Or you can concentrate your time and effort into promoting some cause for the good of all - like, oh say, environmentalism.

I have no proof of this but I liken a pro skier to be like a freshman in college: you don't really live in reality and everything you do goes towards some dream of yours.

Seriously? As a guy earning my own way through college I pursued my dream. I'm pretty sure I was living in reality. Details available on request.

I'm not saying that having dreams are a bad thing but skiing—in any form— is a selfish pursuit, a vanity.

CG actively promotes environmentalism. A vanity, I guess?

**#######** · 06-10-2018, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

Let me point out why I think most of this CG criticism is sour grapes (or worse):

Or you can concentrate your time and effort into promoting some cause for the good of all - like, oh say, environmentalism.

Seriously? As a guy earning my own way through college I pursued my dream. I'm pretty sure I was living in reality. Details available on request.

CG actively promotes environmentalism. A vanity, I guess?

Oh I forgot about the environmental activism. My bad. I'm gonna go hold up some signs and put some POW stickers on my rocketbox.
I'll post some pics later.

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-10-2018, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by sickturd

Oh I forgot about the environmental activism. My bad. I'm gonna go hold up some signs and put some POW stickers on my rocketbox.
I'll post some pics later.

If you have that much free time, maybe you should work on getting over it.

**raisingarizona13** · 06-10-2018, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

Do people really lose all credibility and moral ground if they have a trust fund?

Absolutely not. My point was that at times for some their perception of reality can be off putting to those of us that have been given nothing and have to work really hard for anything.

If that's offensive to anyone on here too bad, that's real. On another note my posts are generally less intense but this past week I did a lot of drinking and with the stresses I'm experiencing my drunken alter ego was hell bent on self destructive behavior, that post in part was fueled by that guy.

**#######** · 06-10-2018, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

If you have that much free time, maybe you should work on getting over it.

No way! Scott Pruitt needs to go!

**::: :::** · 06-10-2018, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by sickturd

If

“IF”

Is it actually true?

Originally Posted by sickturd

magical monthly deposits into your bank account

Are you referring to sponsors or family money?

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-10-2018, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by raisingarizona13

Absolutely not. My point was that at times for some their perception of reality can be off putting to those of us that have been given nothing and have to work really hard for anything.

So maybe we should be judging people on what they actually do, instead of what they have? And FWIW, I'm going to represent with the people that had to work really hard to get what I have.

**#######** · 06-10-2018, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by acinpdx

“IF”

Is it actually true?

Are you referring to sponsors or family money?

I have no proof, and I wasn't talking about CG specifically...it's just a corollary of my experience in the industry for the last 10 years.

and to the skipper, I too waited tables/bartended/pounded nails to put my ass through college and ski 70 days a year. I got my dream job too.

**Danno** · 06-10-2018, 03:15 PM

So if your parents paid for college, no amount of adult life thereafter gives you "made it on your own" cred? Asking for a friend.

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-10-2018, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So if your parents paid for college, no amount of adult life thereafter gives you "made it on your own" cred? Asking for a friend.

Usually I’d say not an issue, unless your friend went to law school.

j/k

**Danno** · 06-10-2018, 05:13 PM

Even if he paid for that?

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-10-2018, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Even if he paid for that?

You’re reaching.

j/k...again.

**skifishbum** · 06-10-2018, 05:31 PM

just how many of the chutes in the gallary of glory has your friend bagged?
on his own

**The SnowShow** · 06-10-2018, 05:47 PM

What if McLean used guides when he did the project....gasp

**Meadow Skipper** · 06-10-2018, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

What if McLean used guides when he did the project....gasp

Like Alex Lowe? Or UT DOT? Or that guy that wrote those two Wasatch touring guides (can’t recall his name right now - blame The Botanist gin)?

Googled: David Hanscomb and Alexis Kelner:
https://www.amazon.com/Wasatch-Tours.../dp/1884744036

Let us honor, and acknowledge and recognize, those who went before us.