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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Plenty of people have done all sorts of stuff without their ACL. You don't "KNEED" it...
    FIFY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    It would be one thing if she had a few big summits under her belt while missing her acl. This seems ill advised
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    I think it's a poorly conceived idea to go on the most extreme mission of your life at significantly less than 100%. Everest is no joke under any circumstances (some popular opinion to the contrary), and even a 10% reduction in her capabilities will almost surely sink her chances of success, not to mention just coming home alive.

    I really hope she's not doing this just to appease sponsors. If I were a major sponsor, I'd pull my support and tell her to wait a year. Maybe such a delay is not possible, with the permit situation on Everest, etc., but it's a huge expenditure of time, money, and resources (POW anybody?) to go on an expedition like this with severely compromised chances of success. Sucks that this happened to her, but the mountain isn't going anywhere.

    Regardless, I wish her luck and a safe return, and I'll be following along to see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    I think it's a poorly conceived idea to go on the most extreme mission of your life at significantly less than 100%. Everest is no joke under any circumstances (some popular opinion to the contrary), and even a 10% reduction in her capabilities will almost surely sink her chances of success, not to mention just coming home alive.

    I really hope she's not doing this just to appease sponsors. If I were a major sponsor, I'd pull my support and tell her to wait a year. Maybe such a delay is not possible, with the permit situation on Everest, etc., but it's a huge expenditure of time, money, and resources (POW anybody?) to go on an expedition like this with severely compromised chances of success. Sucks that this happened to her, but the mountain isn't going anywhere.

    Regardless, I wish her luck and a safe return, and I'll be following along to see what happens.
    I wasn't going to say anything but these are my exact thoughts. I am not hating on her, but to try and climb Everest, and put herself at risk, and others as well if she needs to have aid rendered is crazy.
    Stay home, get the surgery and hit it next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skideeppow View Post
    I wasn't going to say anything but these are my exact thoughts. I am not hating on her, but to try and climb Everest, and put herself at risk, and others as well if she needs to have aid rendered is crazy.
    Stay home, get the surgery and hit it next year.
    while this is how I personally would approach it, I highly doubt a gimpy CG will be even close to the biggest liability on everest... an awful lot of pay-to-play how do I put my crampons on dentist types up there last I heard anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    while this is how I personally would approach it, I highly doubt a gimpy CG will be even close to the biggest liability on everest... an awful lot of pay-to-play “how do I put my crampons on” dentist types up there last I heard anyway
    Exactly. She's getting after it all the time in the BC and I'm sure she's in great shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Exactly. She's getting after it all the time in the BC and I'm sure she's in great shape.
    I have been absolutely smoked by her in skimo races and just casually on the skintrack out here (and I got 77 touring days this year so far, I get out there) and I got at least 6 height worth of stride on her lol. color me impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    while this is how I personally would approach it, I highly doubt a gimpy CG will be even close to the biggest liability on everest... an awful lot of pay-to-play how do I put my crampons on dentist types up there last I heard anyway
    ^^^This. I think that a jong at 100% with summit fever is much more a liability than someone with a bad ACL. From my limited mountaineering experience good judgment, lack of summit fever and knowing your limits is far more important than being at a full 100%. I would imagine that for a fairly non technical climb (other than altitude) like Everest these points would hold even more true.

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    According to the most comprehensive study of ACL injuries about half of people with a ruptured ACL would do just fine NOT having the it repaired.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0722075224.htm

    Unless you are aware of the specifics of CG's injury you should probably not voice an opinion as to her treatment.

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    my better 1/2 who has been a liscenced pt for over 3 decades with professional letters behind her name and well on her way to being one of only 3 fellowship
    in ortopidiac manual physical therapy therapists in the state suggests


    not using a single click bait urinal cake e-source as anything but that
    and jospt or other more professional studies are out there with better info
    and that isn't anywhere near the most comprehensive study as stated

    and without knowing the fitness level of the sample group or how many just want to bike or hike or play with their kids vrs. ski at a high level or try and play soccer, basketball or other sports requiring sharp cutting,running and directional change the studies not as valid as you think and the devils in the details
    but im sure you stayed at a holiday inn at some point
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    Read the whole study, they segregated out younger than 19, older than 35, all were active and they had to be able to return to prior level.

    The discussion of this started with a UCLA Medical Center Sports Medicine MD that when talking about ACL injuries pointed out this specific study, it was not a urinal cake internet piece of crap.

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    I don't waste time reading science . com clickbait crap
    my wife read it and gave me her cliff notes feel free to come by @bbi and argue with someone who knows
    a slight bit more than you though
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    I can not believe the audacity of this girl. She actually thinks she knows her body and abilities better than you random pathetic fucks posting on here.
    She needs to stop listening to herself, her doctors and her PT and start consulting you know it all keyboard warriors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    while this is how I personally would approach it, I highly doubt a gimpy CG will be even close to the biggest liability on everest... an awful lot of pay-to-play “how do I put my crampons on” dentist types up there last I heard anyway
    That's my feeling, too. At a minimum she has a lot more experience judging when she should give it up than some others would.

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    I'm sure Caroline has been working with a LISCENCED pt. I bet she'll be good to go by the time her trip rolls around. A good LISCENCED pt can make all the difference.
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    so does learning how to spell!

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    I have a friend who is looking to summit this year without a leg. Her Social Media hasn’t blown up with folks calling her a liability.

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    Caroline Gleich Harrassment Story

    My dad's fake leg worked better than his real one. If the fake leg had a broken pivot, that would be more comparable. I don't know if her acl is an issue or not, but it certainly is questionable

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    I have a friend who is looking to summit this year without a leg. Her Social Media hasnt blown up with folks calling her a liability.
    Whats her name? Im pretty sure we can get some of the people here to call her out.

    There some video on CGs IG feed of her working out on her blown knee. She looks pretty fit.
    And I guess that I just don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    so does learning how to spell!
    At least he bolded ONLY the typos (wtf?)

    "I'm sure Caroline has been working with a LISCENCED pt. I bet she'll be good to go by the time her trip rolls around. A good LISCENCED pt can make all the difference."

    I grew up in southeast Idaho, trust me, this dumbass is not the norm. (but I also get it if you don't believe me, heh)

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    Erik Weihenmayer, the first blind man to climb the seven summits:



    He also kayaked the Colorado River.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    Erik Weihenmayer, the first blind man to climb the seven summits:



    He also kayaked the Colorado River.
    So this guys went BLIND and then climbed EVEREST a MONTH AND A HALF LATER!?!

    That's fucking amazing!
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    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kanone View Post
    I can not believe the audacity of this girl. She actually thinks she knows her body and abilities better than you random pathetic fucks posting on here.
    She needs to stop listening to herself, her doctors and her PT and start consulting you know it all keyboard warriors.


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    Thank you. This whole thread is one giant harassment of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    so does learning how to spell!
    Yeah, even though he comes across as a toothless meth-head MAGA-ite most of the time, he's actually riffing on SFB's stellar prior post. Stay with the program.

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    Caroline Gleich Harrassment Story

    Quote Originally Posted by reckless toboggan View Post
    So this guys went BLIND and then climbed EVEREST a MONTH AND A HALF LATER!?!

    That's fucking amazing!
    Well, actually he was on a stair master. They just told him he climbed Everest

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