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  1. #801
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    Yeah I was talking specifically about the Denver/WP situation, where the city owns the resort and contracts with a private company to operate it. USFS leases are a different story, the FS owns the land but not the resort and isn't benefiting from resort operations beyond the lease fee.

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    And what people really want is more parking.

    https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...illion-Capital

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    Actually, sounds like some good improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    And what people really want is more parking.

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    No, what people really want is less people.

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    It's time to revive this bitch thread. Those bitches and butches at Placer County rubber-stamped the fuckin' Base To Base Gondola between Squaw and Alpine...the final Board approval was unanimous. Just another little annoyance....fucking eyesore all over the Alpine Meadows valley, an eyesore to people hiking Five Lakes, or annoying to people that want to pretend that Granite Chief Wilderness is not 200 feet from electrified transportation. And that it supports and encourages the development of Whitewolf...more homes for billionaires...just what we needed...because we need more jets and helicopters landing at the Truckee airport. I hate that I live 100 feet from the Placer County line so I can't even vote one of those fuckers out.

    You can bet next year..."we have to close Alpine Meadows early to build a fucking useless gondola".

    Okay, bitching done.

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    Is Sierra Watch going to litigate those approvals/EIR?

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  7. #807
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    Official KSL Bitch AND Bitch about people bitching about KSL thread

    Quote Originally Posted by gone2alpine View Post
    It's time to revive this bitch thread. Those bitches and butches at Placer County rubber-stamped the fuckin' Base To Base Gondola between Squaw and Alpine...the final Board approval was unanimous. Just another little annoyance....fucking eyesore all over the Alpine Meadows valley, an eyesore to people hiking Five Lakes, or annoying to people that want to pretend that Granite Chief Wilderness is not 200 feet from electrified transportation. And that it supports and encourages the development of Whitewolf...more homes for billionaires...just what we needed...because we need more jets and helicopters landing at the Truckee airport. I hate that I live 100 feet from the Placer County line so I can't even vote one of those fuckers out.

    You can bet next year..."we have to close Alpine Meadows early to build a fucking useless gondola".

    Okay, bitching done.
    Agreed. Add to that a probably giant parking structure since they will need someplace for all the cars getting displaced by the village. And the discontinuation of all shuttle services.

    Seriously, unanimous? I've never seen a planning mtg about anything contentious in sf that was unanimous. Placer county representing the interests of Tahoe is ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone2alpine View Post
    It's time to revive this bitch thread. Those bitches and butches at Placer County rubber-stamped the fuckin' Base To Base Gondola between Squaw and Alpine...the final Board approval was unanimous. Just another little annoyance....fucking eyesore all over the Alpine Meadows valley, an eyesore to people hiking Five Lakes, or annoying to people that want to pretend that Granite Chief Wilderness is not 200 feet from electrified transportation. And that it supports and encourages the development of Whitewolf...more homes for billionaires...just what we needed...because we need more jets and helicopters landing at the Truckee airport. I hate that I live 100 feet from the Placer County line so I can't even vote one of those fuckers out.

    You can bet next year..."we have to close Alpine Meadows early to build a fucking useless gondola".

    Okay, bitching done.
    Looks like Forest Service approved as well, but alignment 4, the easternmost.
    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...s-14120412.php
    https://www.sierrawatch.org/forest-s...dola-decision/

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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    Is Sierra Watch going to litigate those approvals/EIR?

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    Doubt it. They should use their resources to continue fighting the village. The gondola is a meh, whatever, in comparison.

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    hi idgaf about tahoe, i hear that place has been a shitshow for years. since the world revolves around Jackson Hole, does anyone have inside info as it relates to Alterra (KSL)'s relationship to JH? anyone who just quit a middle management job@JH with juicy gossip? shits too nice right now with biking and fishing, help us start bitching

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    Nope, but you can be sure we'll be crowding your tram line next season with OUR IKON PASSES

    TJ - personally, I agree. Village is a much bigger deal. But I bet SW litigates both.
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    FS gave preliminary approval, final approval still pending.
    The AM residents are unhappy about the existing Gazex exploders, which protect the road they use to access their houses. Now Squaw has agreed to eliminate 8 exploders that would protect the gondola. Squaw says exploders reduce risk to patrollers; I don't know if this is true or the real motive for placing them. If it is true and given 3 patrollers killed in the last 10 years doing snow safety, eliminating the exploders to please the AM residents, most of whom I assume ski at AM, seems like a bad move. Not that I'm a gondola fan.

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    Official KSL Bitch AND Bitch about people bitching about KSL thread

    Iím going to be honest... I will absolutely use this gondola and had a few days last season where I wish it already existed. Yes, if I was in charge thereís other things Iíd do first, but just saying.

    New hot wheels should be great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    FS gave preliminary approval, final approval still pending.
    The AM residents are unhappy about the existing Gazex exploders, which protect the road they use to access their houses. Now Squaw has agreed to eliminate 8 exploders that would protect the gondola. Squaw says exploders reduce risk to patrollers; I don't know if this is true or the real motive for placing them. If it is true and given 3 patrollers killed in the last 10 years doing snow safety, eliminating the exploders to please the AM residents, most of whom I assume ski at AM, seems like a bad move. Not that I'm a gondola fan.
    With Gazex they can remote pop em many times during a storm. Smaller avalanches result, less risk... a great solution. Stupid complaint by the homeowners IMHO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    With Gazex they can remote pop em many times during a storm. Smaller avalanches result, less risk... a great solution. Stupid complaint by the homeowners IMHO.


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    In theory. Except when the gazex gets buried and becomes unusable...which happened.

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    Still the gazex saved lives

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    OG, where does it say that Squaw agreed to remove 8 Gazex? afaik, that would be all 8 on AM road: https://squawalpine.com/explore/blog/18-new-gazex

    I think the complaint is from the homeowners is that it sounded like a massive bomb, and it's going off right above their houses. I wouldn't like it either.

    Then again, I do like accessing skiing and (better yet) 'trollers not dying.

    If you wanna get dorky, here's what the gold-heeled patricians of Alpine Shreadows think: https://www.alpinemeadowsestatesasso...-alpine-valley
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    Gazex is a pretty good tool for continually triggering new snow avalanches.
    One problem with them is that since they are fixed, they harden the snow in the vicinity, and can lead to a false sense of security when hunting deep slab.

    On a plus note they make a pretty good bivy. The larger exploders make a romantic getaway for two!
    You just unplug the sparking unit to avoid a wake up call...
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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    OG, where does it say that Squaw agreed to remove 8 Gazex? afaik, that would be all 8 on AM road: https://squawalpine.com/explore/blog/18-new-gazex

    I think the complaint is from the homeowners is that it sounded like a massive bomb, and it's going off right above their houses. I wouldn't like it either.

    Then again, I do like accessing skiing and (better yet) 'trollers not dying.

    If you wanna get dorky, here's what the gold-heeled patricians of Alpine Shreadows think: https://www.alpinemeadowsestatesasso...-alpine-valley
    sorry. I forgot to attach the article link I meant to include. SQAM agreed to remove 8 exploders from he gondola plan. They are not planning to remove existing exploders AFAIK.
    https://www.sierrasun.com/news/place...-base-gondola/

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    Quote Originally Posted by telefreewasatch View Post

    On a plus note they make a pretty good bivy. The larger exploders make a romantic getaway for two!
    You just unplug the sparking unit to avoid a wake up call...
    Ha!

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