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  1. #626
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Squamish BC.
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    670
    I got 130 XTDís because I have a fairly narrow fore foot, but always seem to need little toe relief punches, and a narrow ankle and calf. The Hawk was the only boot that fit that bill. They were excruciatingly tight out of the box despite correct shelf fit for length. After liner/shell bake they fit perfectly with no need for supplemental work.

    The stock liner proved to be a bit flimsy and cold. I could feel the shell contours right through it, but the boot skied and toured very well. I ended up going to Intuition to get a better liner. The Pro Tour Medium Volumes that have been my go to in the past were too tight. The Low Volume was too loose, so I tried a MV Tour Wrap which has thinner foam and is kind of in between. I had to re heat the shell to get some more volume and It skis great and provides much more power/stiffness with a performance fit like a downhill boot. Unfortunately, I canít get enough room in the toe box despite some additional punches to get touring comfort. So I have moved on to the Technica Zero G Tour Pro which is a few mm longer in the same shell size. Still working on that fit though with boot work for fore foot width. Itís quite narrow.


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  2. #627
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
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    39
    Quote Originally Posted by msparker23 View Post
    I currently use a pair of hawx ultra 110 but want a stiffer boot that can also tour. As I see it, I have three good options:

    1) great deal on 2019-20 120 flex XTDs (better liner for downhill)
    2) great deal (although a little more than the 120) on 2019-20 130 flex XTDs and also take my current 110 liner with me for when I wont be going uphill
    3) wait for the 2020-21 version of the 130

    What do folks think? I'm thinking option 2 may be the best given I already have a good downhill liner, then you have the best optionality.
    I was able to get the 20/21 version of the Atomic Hawx 130 XTD with the new Mimic Liner. It may be what you are looking for. I have put some days on it. It feels like an alpine boot liner and is real snug. It does not tour as well, in that it restricts the ROM a little more but I only feel it when I'm taking longer strides on mellow terrain. Since this will be my primary touring boot less a 50/50 boot I might get the touring liner as an aftermarket purchase in the fall for bigger touring days.

  3. #628
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    127
    Just got some 19/20 XTD 130s for a great deal thanks to ptex1! Out of the box the midfoot and toes seem very tight, and okay instep height for me. Iím actually impressed by the liner, the padding is thin but well formed in the ankle and heel pocket. I thought Iíd have to ditch it straight away but Iíll at least give it a fair shake.

    I did a home shell bake (240 deg convection oven for 12 min) and that made a difference in forefoot width, especially in the outside/6th toe region, as well as a nice easing of the instep. Everything still feels snug but is now comfortable. Iím looking forward to getting these on a short tour this weekend, Iím hoping these can replace my Cochise.


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  4. #629
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    31
    Quote Originally Posted by YaBoyBlue View Post
    Just got some 19/20 XTD 130s for a great deal thanks to ptex1! Out of the box the midfoot and toes seem very tight, and okay instep height for me. I’m actually impressed by the liner, the padding is thin but well formed in the ankle and heel pocket. I thought I’d have to ditch it straight away but I’ll at least give it a fair shake.

    I did a home shell bake (240 deg convection oven for 12 min) and that made a difference in forefoot width, especially in the outside/6th toe region, as well as a nice easing of the instep. Everything still feels snug but is now comfortable. I’m looking forward to getting these on a short tour this weekend, I’m hoping these can replace my Cochise.


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    Did you bake the liner too? I am debating it for a new pair

  5. #630
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
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    1,170
    Quote Originally Posted by abcdethan View Post
    I was able to get the 20/21 version of the Atomic Hawx 130 XTD with the new Mimic Liner. It may be what you are looking for. I have put some days on it. It feels like an alpine boot liner and is real snug. It does not tour as well, in that it restricts the ROM a little more but I only feel it when I'm taking longer strides on mellow terrain. Since this will be my primary touring boot less a 50/50 boot I might get the touring liner as an aftermarket purchase in the fall for bigger touring days.
    I'm so back and forth on whether I'm stoked on the new mimic liner for next year, I have this years and absolutely love it in every way. As in, all I did was put my footbed as well as a foam shim under the liner and it's absolutely perfect. Where as I also had the alpine 130 ultra and hated that liner. I know the mimic is going to be different than the previous ultra 130 liner but I just don't really see the point, everyone I talked to with this years XTD loved the liner.

  6. #631
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    CA
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    127
    Quote Originally Posted by xconverge View Post
    Did you bake the liner too? I am debating it for a new pair
    I did not bake the liner, I might get the hot rice bag method going as Iím feeling a bit of a pinch over the instep still. I think Iíll ski them first, see if they pack in a bit first, then go from there.

  7. #632
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Posts
    39
    I was back and forth as well. Now that Iíve been getting out a lot on the new boot, I would have been happier with the touring liner. I only think the New Mimic liner will benefit for those who need to really customize the liner for fit, or want a plush liner for a 50/50 boot. Iíll probably get the touring liner later.


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