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12-04-2017, 08:05 AM #301Registered User
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They both fit fine - a little snug in the toes, but fine. what would you pick? I don't have any previous ski tour experience.
P.S. Also, my performance size is 24.5. But I ski fine in dalbello krypton in 25.0. Should I downsize to 24.5 (both boots needs some work to push the toes) or go with 25.5 (fine from box, but 2 fingers from shell to heel)
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12-04-2017, 10:22 AM #302
If you are replacing the Kryptons and skiing everything in the new boots (possibly touring a bit as well) then the Hawx Ultra XTD.
If you are keeping the Kryptons as a resort boot and touring only in the new boots, the MTN Explore.
Whose fingers? Mine are 15mm thick; a 30mm shell fit for a smallish foot is pretty sloppy.
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12-04-2017, 12:23 PM #303Registered User
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Sorry, but I don't have time these days to read through 13 pages of TGR (ah, those were the days), so... 120 vs 130 flex - who has tried both either in the shop or on the hill? Does a stock 120 feel significantly softer than a stock 130? I have only managed to try the 130 locally. Would prefer the stiffer flex of the 130 but feel like the snugger liner of the 120 will work for my foot better.
Last edited by LC; 12-04-2017 at 02:14 PM.
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12-04-2017, 12:49 PM #304
Anyone coming from a Krypton to an XTD 130 as a one boot quiver will be drastically disappointed by how terribly the XTD skis when compared to a KR2.
One boot quivers are dumb. It’s like a one ski quiver - sucks at everything.
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12-04-2017, 01:01 PM #305
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12-04-2017, 01:11 PM #306
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12-04-2017, 02:10 PM #307Registered User
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12-04-2017, 02:14 PM #308Registered User
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"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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12-04-2017, 02:59 PM #309
Aaaaaah yeah
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12-04-2017, 03:02 PM #310
I've been skiing the last two days in the 100 flex version with a Sidas liner and so far I'm very happy with them. Only downside for me is that the 100 flex version doesn't have the user serviceable cuff pivot and the lower buckles are riveted (not bolted).
100 flex version doesn't come with the spoiler in the box (although I'm skiing with someone who is using the 120 flex version, and he says that there was no spoiler in the box of his boots either).Last edited by Oceanic; 12-04-2017 at 03:04 PM. Reason: Said I was skiing with a 'Sidas Loner'
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12-04-2017, 03:03 PM #311Dad core
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Anyone know when atomic will be shipping out more 28.5s? they are sold out everywhere in the US as far as I can tell.
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12-04-2017, 03:55 PM #312Registered User
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12-04-2017, 08:44 PM #313a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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12-04-2017, 09:14 PM #314
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12-04-2017, 09:39 PM #315
They are both excellent boots.
MTN Explore = better range of motion, wider heel, easier to put on/take off, simple walk mode mechanism and minimal fiddling during transition
Hawx Ultra XTD = Snugger fit through the ankle and heel, more powerful "alpine" feel, WTR compatible if you are switching between alpine skis and touring skis (I have the 130, not the 120)
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12-04-2017, 09:54 PM #316
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12-06-2017, 02:06 AM #317
Id also say the MTN has less room in the pinky/sixth toe area, so if you have a square set of toes on your feet the XTD is a better fit. The MTN also has a noticeably lower instep, and that was the real deal breaker for me.
XTD: low volume heel/ankle, "roomy"/square toe box, medium/high instep
MTN: wider heel/ankle, low instep, "sloped" toe box (long towards the big toe, tight/short towards the pinky toe)
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12-06-2017, 10:16 AM #318
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12-06-2017, 11:10 AM #320Registered User
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Is the Hawx XTD compatible with 2014 Marker Squire binders? A sales person recently told me they weren't but they couldn't give me a good reason other than "manufacturer specs say it's not compatible".
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12-06-2017, 11:16 AM #321Registered User
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Does any shops in the Seattle area these in stock to try on?
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12-06-2017, 11:20 AM #322
The WTR sole on the XTD probably is too tall to fit in the toe of an older Marker Squire (which doesn't have adjustable toe height). Most importantly from the shop's perspective, Marker does not certify the Squire to work with WTR soles, which means that if they mount the for you, and then they don't release properly and you get hurt and sue the shop, Marker won't defend the shop like they would if they had followed Marker's specs. Most shops aren't willing to take that risk and won't mount or test anything that's not officially supported by the binding manufacturer.
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12-06-2017, 11:30 AM #323Registered User
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Thanks for the response, that's helpful. My Squires have the adjustable AFD height, would that allow for compensating for the thicker sole of the Hawx?
I generally do my own mounting and adjustments, just don't want to invest in a pair of boots that flat out won't work with my quiver.
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12-06-2017, 11:57 AM #324Registered User
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12-06-2017, 01:18 PM #325
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