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01-16-2017, 08:24 PM #1
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WHAT THE “SANTA CLAUSIFICATION” OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. LEAVES OUT
https://www.google.com/amp/s/static....eaves-out.html
In April 1967, King decided to publicly denounce the war and call for its end. He gave a speech at Riverside Church in New York City where he called the U.S. government the “greatest purveyor of violence in the world” and denounced napalm bombings and the propping up of a puppet government in South Vietnam. He also called for a total re-examination of U.S. foreign policy, questioning capitalist exploitation of the developing world.
Many in the civil rights community warned King to focus on black civil rights and ignore the war so as not to alienate the Democratic Party. His Riverside Church speech explicitly rejected that demand, arguing that what America was doing across the world could not be morally segregated from what it was doing to African-Americans:
For those who ask the question, “Aren’t you a civil rights leader?” and thereby mean to exclude me from the movement for peace, I have this further answer. In 1957, when a group of us formed the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, we chose as our motto: “To save the soul of America.” We were convinced that we could not limit our vision to certain rights for black people, but instead affirmed the conviction that America would never be free or saved from itself until the descendants of its slaves were loosed completely from the shackles they still wear. […] Now it should be incandescently clear that no one who has any concern for the integrity and life of America today can ignore the present war. If America’s soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read “Vietnam.” It can never be saved so long as it destroys the hopes of men the world over. So it is that those of us who are yet determined that “America will be” are led down the path of protest and dissent, working for the health of our land.
The reaction from the American political establishment — much of it traditionally associated with American liberalism — was swift and harsh. The New York Times editorial board blasted King for linking the war in Vietnam to the struggles of civil rights and poverty alleviation in the United States, saying it was “too facile a connection” and that he was doing a “disservice” to both causes. It concluded that there “are no simple answers to the war in Vietnam or to racial injustice in this country.” The Washington Post editorial board said King had “diminished his usefulness to his cause, his country and his people.” In all, 168 newspapers denounced him the next day.
President Johnson stopped taking meetings with King. “What is that goddamned nigger preacher doing to me?” Johnson reportedly remarked after the speech. “We gave him the Civil Rights Act of 1964, we gave him the Voting Rights Act of 1965, we gave him the War on Poverty. What more does he want?”
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01-16-2017, 08:36 PM #2
Thanks for putting this up. While 'Nam is forgotten by many and is "old history" much of what he said still rings true. If still alive today, he'd be indicted and imprisoned under the fascist Patriot Act. + being ostracized on Twatter.
Did the last unsatisfied fat soccer mom you took to your mom's basement call you a fascist? -irul&ublo
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01-16-2017, 08:47 PM #3
"Beyond Vietnam"
A Time to Break Silence
By Rev. Martin Luther King
By 1967, King had become the country's most prominent opponent of the Vietnam War, and a staunch critic of overall U.S. foreign policy, which he deemed militaristic. In his "Beyond Vietnam" speech delivered at New York's Riverside Church on April 4, 1967 -- a year to the day before he was murdered -- King called the United States "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today."
Time magazine called the speech "demagogic slander that sounded like a script for Radio Hanoi," and the Washington Post declared that King had "diminished his usefulness to his cause, his country, his people."
http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle2564.htm
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01-16-2017, 08:50 PM #4
The world now demands a maturity of America that we may not be able to achieve. It demands that we admit that we have been wrong from the beginning of our adventure in Vietnam, that we have been detrimental to the life of the Vietnamese people. The situation is one in which we must be ready to turn sharply from our present ways.
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01-16-2017, 08:52 PM #5
Increasingly, by choice or by accident, this is the role our nation has taken -- the role of those who make peaceful revolution impossible by refusing to give up the privileges and the pleasures that come from the immense profits of overseas investment.
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01-16-2017, 09:10 PM #6Registered User
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Class warfare was next on his agenda. The Poor Peoples Campaign.
@Flowing, everyday is a great day to ski. Whats your point?
"Some folks may have the luxury to hold out for “the perfect.” But a lot of Americans are hurting right now and they can’t wait for that." - Hillary Clinton
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01-16-2017, 09:20 PM #7
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01-16-2017, 09:27 PM #8
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01-16-2017, 09:52 PM #9
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01-17-2017, 05:38 AM #10
What King said about Vietnam in 1967 was what most Americans felt by 1973. I'm sure the Time and Washington Post writers came to regret their remarks. Just like a lot of people who supported the invasion of Iraq see things differently now.
Another deified figure who was crucified at the time for his opposition to the war is Mohammed Ali.
Of course most folks didn't care much for Jesus in his day either.
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01-17-2017, 06:26 AM #11
i believe
everyone hears the drums
some just choose to ignore them
"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
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01-17-2017, 11:56 AM #12
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
— Martin Luther King, Strength to Love, 1963
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01-17-2017, 12:08 PM #13
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01-17-2017, 12:11 PM #14
Day of Service is a Disservice to the Truth of MLK’s Life, Death, and Witness
http://dissidentvoice.org/2017/01/a-...ss/#more-65262
However, William Pepper’s decades-long investigation not only refutes the flimsy case against James Earl Ray, but definitively proves that King was killed by a government conspiracy led by J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI, Army Intelligence, and Memphis Police, assisted by southern Mafia figures. He is right to assert that “we have probably acquired more detailed knowledge about this political assassination than we have ever had about any previous historical event.” This makes the silence around this case even more shocking.
This shock is accentuated when one is reminded (or told for the first time) that in 1999 a Memphis jury, after a thirty day trial with over seventy witnesses, found the U.S. government guilty in the killing of MLK. The King family had brought the suit and Pepper represented them. They were grateful that the truth was confirmed, but saddened by the way the findings were buried once again by a media in cahoots with the government.
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01-17-2017, 12:14 PM #15
Coretta Scott King v. Loyd JowersEdit
In 1999, the King family filed a civil case against Jowers and unnamed co-conspirators for the wrongful death of King. The case, Coretta Scott King, et al. vs. Loyd Jowers et al., Case No. 97242, was tried in the circuit court of Shelby County, Tennessee, from November 15 to December 8, 1999.
Attorney William Francis Pepper, representing the King family, presented evidence from 70 witnesses and 4,000 pages of transcripts. Pepper alleges in his book, An Act of State (2003), that the evidence implicated the FBI, the CIA, the US Army, the Memphis Police Department, and organized crime in the murder of King.[54] The suit alleged government involvement; however, no government officials or agencies were named or made a party to the suit, so there was no defense or evidence presented or refuted by the government.[3] The jury found defendant Loyd Jowers and unknown co-defendants civilly liable for participation in a conspiracy to assassinate King in the amount of $100. Members of King's family acted as plaintiffs.[55]
Excerpt:
The court: In answer to the question did Loyd Jowers participate in a conspiracy to do harm to Dr. Martin Luther King, your answer is yes. Do you also find that others, including governmental agencies, were parties to this conspiracy as alleged by the defendant? Your answer to that one is also yes. And the total amount of damages you find for the plaintiffs entitled to is one hundred dollars. Is that your verdict?
The jury: Yes (In unison).[55]
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01-18-2017, 05:43 PM #16
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01-18-2017, 06:07 PM #17
As I understand, king's family wanted to show it was about the truth, not money
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01-18-2017, 11:25 PM #18
Still the bigger the settlement the more attention it would garner. I never heard about this till now. This country has a lot of crosses to bear.
License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations
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01-19-2017, 06:53 AM #19Registered User
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Strange case. Seems like more of a publicity stunt than anything else. The defendant wanted to make money by selling his story.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_JowersLast edited by billyk; 01-19-2017 at 07:13 AM.
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