4Runner/Tacoma alternatives?

[heckacali]

Big square fender cutouts over round small round wheels bugs me on so many cars.
The black just makes it look worse

[XXX-er]

I keep seeing Walter White's pontiac Aztec

[grabtindy]

https://imgur.com/a/rOsBKUd
This 88 has been my “daily” since I started WFH. 22RE + 5mt. Mechanically sorted, no rust, but needs a paint correction/respray.


edit: so images don't work? Neat. Updated with link to gallery.

[frorider]

^ Guy should switch to decaf.

Posting a Doug Demuro vid is a violation of TRG Guidelines. Surprised the advanced forum software didn’t remove it immediately. It’s worse than child pr0n.

[Ted Striker]

Can’t believe they went turbo four. It saves one mile per gallon. And no doubt affects the 250k mileage reliability.

It's for emissions. And like it or not, all light trucks & SUVs will go this way.

Though it's not a completely new engine. It's the T24A-FTS from the Tacoma, Highlander, and the Lexus RX/TX, and it's very similar to the engine in the Camry and RAV4, so the engine itself is solid (so far).

As AR said, I don't think Toyota is going to trash their reputation for reliability by extracting that much power from it via boost without fairly extensive testing & data. Longevity might be another story. The reason the 5VZ and 1GR run forever is that they don't make any power.

[bennymac]

https://imgur.com/a/rOsBKUd
This 88 has been my “daily” since I started WFH. 22RE + 5mt. Mechanically sorted, no rust, but needs a paint correction/respray.


edit: so images don't work? Neat. Updated with link to gallery.

Hells yeah

[bodywhomper]

Wife and I were discussing/fantasizing future (used) vehicles today for us. What is the future tech like for this class of truck in the plug-in hybrid world?

[ate'em]

At last, I'm looking to replace my 2008 Tundra.
The more I look, the more it seems like I want a much older truck. I want a big bed and a small cab. Farm truck.

Where are folks looking these days for 80s and 90s pickup trucks?
AutoTrader seems well past its prime. Is there some listing site like 'real redneck trucks . com' ??
Thanks yall

[Hopeless Sinner]

At last, I'm looking to replace my 2008 Tundra.
The more I look, the more it seems like I want a much older truck. I want a big bed and a small cab. Farm truck.

Where are folks looking these days for 80s and 90s pickup trucks?
AutoTrader seems well past its prime. Is there some listing site like 'real redneck trucks . com' ??
Thanks yall

Craigslist. All kinds of oddball shit in the general category placed by people that skipped right past "cars + trucks." It does cost $5 to place an ad in the cars and truck section.

1997 F-250 reg cab, looks like an 8' bed. $850

https://boise.craigslist.org/for/d/boise-1997-ford-f250/7738714261.html

[leroy jenkins]

I wish the ineos grenedier was not so specialized for off road and had a bit better handling at highway speeds. I haven't driven one, just based on reviews, but its a big boxy sort of updated knockoff land rover defender, made by a billionaire who was salty land rover stopped making thedefender and decided to make his own. It looks very well done, more emphasis on durability than luxury for the interior and very practical, but the steering is optimized for off road, with no power steering auto correct back to center, which is great if you're rock crawling up something off axis and don't want to fight the steering, but means you have to manually recenter the steering wheel after every turn on the road, which would really get old I think.

Its a shame, i get the defender is an off roading legend, but really, true off road specialty vehicles have come a long ways since that design, and a big boxy pretty off road capable defender knockoff is more of a road trip adventure car than a true off roading beast however they design it, its ground clearance and wheel size and wheel base will always limit it.

It could have been a great just general use adventure mobile, but I guess its made by a billionaire that probably never camps out even inside a vehicle.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Isn't it $80k ish?

Ate'em...what are your requirements? Gas or Diesel? 1/2 or 3/4 ton? Budget? Useage?

I'd probably be looking for a 5.3 or 8.1 Chevy from the late 90s. Those things don't die.

[AdironRider]

66K for a Taco TRD Pro? Get the fuck outta here. That is 70 grand out the door with tax title and tags for a tacoma. I'm sure it is a nice truck and it will be reliable but a Colorado ZR2 is 16 grand cheaper and I already think that is absurd to pay for a mid-size anything.

[North]

At last, I'm looking to replace my 2008 Tundra.
The more I look, the more it seems like I want a much older truck. I want a big bed and a small cab. Farm truck.

Where are folks looking these days for 80s and 90s pickup trucks?
AutoTrader seems well past its prime. Is there some listing site like 'real redneck trucks . com' ??
Thanks yall

Where you at? Engineering firm that my buddy works at (Driggs) is selling a bunch of their fleet trucks. Mid 90s Chevys. I wanna buy one, put a snowmobile in the back, and leave it in AK for annual AKApril trip.

[leroy jenkins]

Isn't it $80k ish?

Ate'em...what are your requirements? Gas or Diesel? 1/2 or 3/4 ton? Budget? Useage?

I'd probably be looking for a 5.3 or 8.1 Chevy from the late 90s. Those things don't die.

Yea... I guess thats my other gripe, is if they built the vehicle I wanted, the grenadier would be like 60k.

Which is still more than four times any other car I've ever owned, and into the realm of cheap airplanes, but its also not too far off just a new Toyota.



There is some truth to the saying that the best off road vehicle is one that you got for cheap enough you don't have to give a shit about paint and body damage

[alias_rice]

66K for a Taco TRD Pro? Get the fuck outta here. That is 70 grand out the door with tax title and tags for a tacoma. I'm sure it is a nice truck and it will be reliable but a Colorado ZR2 is 16 grand cheaper and I already think that is absurd to pay for a mid-size anything.

That’s fucking insane. What’s even worse is that they probably will get sold at $5k-$10k above MSRP for a few years.

[El Chupacabra]

I'd probably be looking for a 5.3 or 8.1 Chevy from the late 90s. Those things don't die.

5.3 = it'll be in a half ton, which means the 4L60E automatic. Engine is fine, transmission is OK but expect to rebuild it sometime.

6.0 or 8.1 = it'll be a 3/4 or 1-ton. The 6.0 gets the 4L80E (4-speed), the 8.1 gets the Allison 5-speed. Both are much stronger and more reliable than the 4L60E.

I wholeheartedly recommend a 99-06 2500 6.0 / 4L80E 4WD truck or Suburban.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I wholeheartedly recommend a 99-06 2500 6.0 / 4L80E 4WD truck or Suburban

I knew you'd have the specifics. But yes, among my friends, this is pretty much the agreed beater of choice.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I wholeheartedly recommend a 99-06 2500 6.0 / 4L80E 4WD truck or Suburban

I knew you'd have the specifics. But yes, among my friends, this is pretty much the agreed beater of choice.

I guess this is a good price for a taco https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/...740733767.html

A quick look makes it seem like the Chevys are getting a premium now also. https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/...731254915.html

[supermodel159]

Yea... I guess thats my other gripe, is if they built the vehicle I wanted, the grenadier would be like 60k.

Which is still more than four times any other car I've ever owned, and into the realm of cheap airplanes, but its also not too far off just a new Toyota.



There is some truth to the saying that the best off road vehicle is one that you got for cheap enough you don't have to give a shit about paint and body damage

The Grenadier is legit. A few of my friends have them; overbuilt and obviously purposefully engineered as you previously pointed out. Downside is obviously pricing, but I assume they'll be more approachable in a few years as the used market is developed.

[BmillsSkier]

Aw man, you're gonna make me watch a Doug Demuro video?

66K for a Taco TRD Pro? Get the fuck outta here. That is 70 grand out the door with tax title and tags for a tacoma. I'm sure it is a nice truck and it will be reliable but a Colorado ZR2 is 16 grand cheaper and I already think that is absurd to pay for a mid-size anything.

I saw that today on an IG feed. $70 fucking grand for a compact truck that will likely never see dirt from most owners. That is objectively insane.

[californiagrown]

There is some truth to the saying that the best off road vehicle is one that you got for cheap enough you don't have to give a shit about paint and body damage

ding ding ding.

Get something with 4wd, good tires, good clearance and good reliability. from the early 2000s or late 90s. Preferably with a beat to shit exterior and needing new upholstery inside. Now, go beat the shit out of it without a single pang of guilt. Feel free to park where you like (keys, birdshit, sap, baseballs, who cares?), and lean your skis/bike handlebars right up on the side panel.

[californiagrown]

There is some truth to the saying that the best off road vehicle is one that you got for cheap enough you don't have to give a shit about paint and body damage

ding ding ding.

Get something with 4wd, good tires, good clearance and good reliability. from the early 2000s or late 90s. Preferably with a beat to shit exterior and needing new upholstery inside. Now, go beat the shit out of it without a single pang of guilt. Feel free to park where you like (keys, birdshit, sap, baseballs, who cares?), and lean your skis/bike handlebars right up on the side panel. Also, never worry about a speeding ticket again because it will likely max out at 75mph, and take 90 seconds to get up to that speed.

[heckacali]

Avoid baseballs tho...
They are more likely to take out gla$$ than just simply add character to the sheet metal.
Ditto: lacrosse and golf balls

[mcski]

For realz. I cant fathom the guys that take their brand new broncos or rubicon’s out into serious 4wd terrain. If if you have the cash i guess it doesn’t matter , but it still makes me cringe to see them get trashed trying to rock crawl and get shredded

[funkendrenchman]

66K for a Taco TRD Pro? Get the fuck outta here. That is 70 grand out the door with tax title and tags for a tacoma. I'm sure it is a nice truck and it will be reliable but a Colorado ZR2 is 16 grand cheaper and I already think that is absurd to pay for a mid-size anything.

Paid $30k in 2016 for my TRD Off-Road.