Page 7 of 7 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4 5 6 7
Results 151 to 171 of 171
  1. #151
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    19,375
    Are those pants the right length or are you walking on the cuffs or have the cuffs rolled up ?

    I would call that crazy amounts of wear n tear/abuse so I wouldn't warranty that if I was Arcterxy and I doubt they will but good luck with it

    I always fix cuff hits with aqua seal way before it gets to ^^ that




    As for the original question I asked a good sized dealer if he notices any difference in what Arcteryx will fix and he said same as always, i gave him a pack with stitching that can't be acessed from the inside and a shell with a broken zipper/ some tape issues and he said they probably won't fix either of them and i will get credit or something
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  2. #152
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    626
    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    Mine are doing the same — same pant same year. Curious what they do with yours when you send em in.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
    Good to know. It makes me think it's a design flaw--although still damage caused by wear and tear--so a total gray area for the warranty. I sent them an email with the photos hoping to get some warranty clarity and will let you know if I hear back.

    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Are those pants the right length or are you walking on the cuffs or have the cuffs rolled up ?

    I would call that crazy amounts of wear n tear/abuse so I wouldn't warranty that if I was Arcterxy and I doubt they will but good luck with it

    I always fix cuff hits with aqua seal way before it gets to ^^ that
    Pants are definitely the correct length and don't drag/get walked on at all. I've been very proactive at trying to put Gore-Tex patches on any holes that poke through the outside of the cuffs, but ultimately the extreme amount of damage occurred because the inside fabric backing delaminated, and that fabric is what protects the waterproof membrane layer (the white layer); without that inner fabric, the boot buckles destroy the rest of the shell wherever they touch it.

    To be fair, I probably have 150 days on the shells, so if that's the usable life, I can live with that verdict. Outside of the cuff issue they're in perfect shape, so would be a shame to retire them.

  3. #153
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    7630'
    Posts
    4,522
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeze View Post
    Good to know. It makes me think it's a design flaw--although still damage caused by wear and tear--so a total gray area for the warranty. I sent them an email with the photos hoping to get some warranty clarity and will let you know if I hear back.



    Pants are definitely the correct length and don't drag/get walked on at all. I've been very proactive at trying to put Gore-Tex patches on any holes that poke through the outside of the cuffs, but ultimately the extreme amount of damage occurred because the inside fabric backing delaminated, and that fabric is what protects the waterproof membrane layer (the white layer); without that inner fabric, the boot buckles destroy the rest of the shell wherever they touch it.

    To be fair, I probably have 150 days on the shells, so if that's the usable life, I can live with that verdict. Outside of the cuff issue they're in perfect shape, so would be a shame to retire them.
    bullet dodged....exactly why we never released pants...however, the pair i made for myself are still going strong (4 yrs with daily use skiing and even on snowmobile) ...so altho you cant buy from me, i can tell you what i used and maybe you can look for similar on open market....

    i used a true softshell fabric like the Antero 2 is made. It is membraned and seam taped. The bottom of leg has the softshell and "super fabric" for the inside the leg cuff guard...I will get a pic or two up ....maybe that helps you...one other benefit with the fleece 3L softshell is that u really dont have to wear any type of bottom baselayer...im mostly in boxers or saxx....

  4. #154
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    19,375
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeze View Post
    Good to know. It makes me think it's a design flaw--although still damage caused by wear and tear--so a total gray area for the warranty. I sent them an email with the photos hoping to get some warranty clarity and will let you know if I hear back.



    Pants are definitely the correct length and don't drag/get walked on at all. I've been very proactive at trying to put Gore-Tex patches on any holes that poke through the outside of the cuffs, but ultimately the extreme amount of damage occurred because the inside fabric backing delaminated, and that fabric is what protects the waterproof membrane layer (the white layer); without that inner fabric, the boot buckles destroy the rest of the shell wherever they touch it.

    To be fair, I probably have 150 days on the shells, so if that's the usable life, I can live with that verdict. Outside of the cuff issue they're in perfect shape, so would be a shame to retire them.
    A super light pair of Arcterxy gortex full zips, too light for alpine skiing really but they were 70 % off SO they are alpine ski pants, probably about 8 yrs and 500+ days wearing 4 buckle alpine boots, pict 1 you can see maybe 3 doz hits on the inside with AQS dabbed on each hit to repair, pict 2 you can see the outside still looks pretty good and pict 3 you can see light shining thru all the repairs

    BUT if i did nothing i think they would look like yours

    Name:  gortex fix 1.jpg
Views: 312
Size:  76.5 KB

    Name:  gortex fix 2.jpeg
Views: 306
Size:  63.1 KB

    Name:  gortex fix 3.jpeg
Views: 308
Size:  50.5 KB
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  5. #155
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    7630'
    Posts
    4,522
    Sorry for thread high jack, but imo this is part of the info you need to make a good informed pants buying decision. Maybe arc has this in one or some of their pants....altho i have several pairs of their pants that i bought for r&d and they do not....

    my pants design
    You can see no wear inside, most likely due to the durability of the fleece layer of the inside of the 3L laminate softshell fabric
    OR valhalla circa 2012-14 had similar construction to this system....but they dropped it along with the Valhalla pant...i own several
    pairs of OR pants of recent and none have the same system anymore....check some other brands...but the issue is that no online
    seller is most likely to give you the product shots you need to make a $300-500 buying decision...

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	v.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	1.28 MB 
ID:	316539
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	z.jpg 
Views:	52 
Size:	1.65 MB 
ID:	316537
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	c.jpg 
Views:	51 
Size:	1.01 MB 
ID:	316538

    close up of leg gaiter
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	b.jpg 
Views:	46 
Size:	1.14 MB 
ID:	316549

    No inside wear or membrane degradation...therefore completely still waterproof down here
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	m.jpg 
Views:	44 
Size:	905.9 KB 
ID:	316552

  6. #156
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    7630'
    Posts
    4,522
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    A super light pair of Arcterxy gortex

    Name:  gortex fix 1.jpg
Views: 312
Size:  76.5 KB
    if you guys are going to use "tricot" lined pants like this...you are going to get the wear...the only way around it would be if a brand used softshell with fleece like my pictured pants, from the knee down, which imo for touring would be wise since that is where you are submerging your leg most while breaking trail or boot packing....the rest of pant can stay tricot for weight and non insulating properties

  7. #157
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Aspen
    Posts
    847
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeze View Post
    Anyone have experience with how they've handled delam issues at the cuffs of ski pants? On my 3 year old Stinger bibs, the cuffs on both legs are completely shredded outside of where the reinforced area is. I'm pretty sure this has been caused by rubbing against my ski boot buckles, so could see how they could call it wear and tear, but it does seem like crazy amounts of wear.

    I'm going to hold onto them until the end of the season before potentially sending them in, but basically want to get an idea of whether I should be in the market for new bibs and taking advantage of end of season
    Funny... Just sent my same 2016 Stinger bibs in last month with a inside cuff delam. ~150 days of use, proper length, some ski edge cuts but mother that would have caused the whole seam to pull apart. I skied them most of last season with a duct tape patch.

    Theyre giving me full replacement. Ill get some new bibs next Sept when the winter inventory is fresh and full. No Mediums right now


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  8. #158
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    19,375
    thats ^^ my hill skiing pant it doesnt breathe so it doesnt go on tour, its a superlight minimalist full zip design I think for alpine climbing and it was > 70% off. I fix the hits which were all ski edge cuts done from the outside and so the pant still looks and works fine but if i did nothing I guaranty the cuffs would also look like poo, but I'm just showing whats possible if you fix your own fucking gear with aqua seal
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  9. #159
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    141

    Has the Arc'teryx warranty gone to shit?

    Just curious if anyones tried sending them in for paid non-warranty repair and what the cost was? In my experience with Patagonia the repairs are excellent and price very reasonable as compared to what a 3rd party repair shop would charge, curious if its similar for Arcteryx. I mean if I were to get a $600 pair of pants that were torn up as a result of wear n tear fixed back up to near-new and pay $25, Id be pretty psyched.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  10. #160
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Aspen
    Posts
    847
    I was expecting and almost hoping theyd just repair mine. If it was Patagonia theyd just throw a nice stitch of black thread down the seam and send them back. Arc seems much more inclined to replace from my experience. My previous pants were 2007 Theta SK bibs with ~800 days. Zipper blew and Id hoped theyd just replace it, but I ended up getting the Stingers instead. Much lower quality.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  11. #161
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Posts
    11,427
    Quote Originally Posted by dub_xion View Post
    Just curious if anyone’s tried sending them in for paid non-warranty repair and what the cost was? In my experience with Patagonia the repairs are excellent and price very reasonable as compared to what a 3rd party repair shop would charge, curious if it’s similar for Arcteryx. I mean if I were to get a $600 pair of pants that were torn up as a result of wear n tear fixed back up to near-new and pay $25, I’d be pretty psyched
    It was a while ago, but I tore a shell while tree skiing, sent it in to Arc’teryx, and it came back beautifully repaired. I don’t remember the cost, but that might mean it was reasonable. It’s worth a try.
    And I guess that I just don't know

  12. #162
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Posts
    13
    My buddy sent some of his pants back for repairs after he tore open a little hole glissading. He sent it back in and paid to get custom super bombproof fabric on the ass (100+ denier, can't remember the number). He paid something like 60 or 80 dollars. They came back looking better than new. I did the same tear with my bibs and just patch + aquasealed it. The patch has since survived glissades as well so meh. I originally did just the gear aid goretex patch and it ripped off glissading. Aqua seal seems bomber tho. Probably negates the point of a "Gore tex* patch because it's not breathable anymore, but the AQS is on a tiny spot anyways. I also like to have my gear look used and well worn.
    Last edited by Lind3n; 02-19-2020 at 06:49 PM.

  13. #163
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    SEA>DEN>Spokanistan
    Posts
    1,400
    Posting up my Stingers from 2-3 years ago for documentation. Seems silly for them to do this after only 100-150 times out. After all they are ski pants and all ski boots have buckles.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3435.JPG 
Views:	65 
Size:	163.6 KB 
ID:	316637
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3436.JPG 
Views:	66 
Size:	154.5 KB 
ID:	316638


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  14. #164
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Church of the Nifty Blue Chrysler
    Posts
    5,383
    Do those pants not have gaiters?
    Set my compass North, I got Winter in my blood.

  15. #165
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    SEA>DEN>Spokanistan
    Posts
    1,400

    Has the Arc'teryx warranty gone to shit?

    They do I keep the gaiter around my booster strap to let me fiddle with the boots as the day goes on.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  16. #166
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    535
    sent in some stingers that the face fabric was delaming from the goretex this year and they gave me a $500 credit towards whatever I wanted. Top notch support in my situation.

  17. #167
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Sun Valley, ID
    Posts
    1,812
    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    They do I keep the gaiter around my booster strap to let me fiddle with the boots as the day goes on.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
    Soooo....thats on you right? Also get power wraps and stop fiddling with your buckles.

  18. #168
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    19,375
    Are you saying you put the power strap of the boot over the Gaiter ?
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  19. #169
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    SEA>DEN>Spokanistan
    Posts
    1,400
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Are you saying you put the power strap of the boot over the Gaiter ?
    Nah, but I bet that would fuck up the gaiter.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliBrit View Post
    Soooo....thats on you right? Also get power wraps and stop fiddling with your buckles.
    Maybe.. maybe not. Last pair of Sabre pants I had the gaiter over the buckles and the gaiter got all fucked up.

    Not saying Im warrantying them just posting up similar pictures.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  20. #170
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Wasatch Back: 7000'
    Posts
    9,336
    I am going to send my wife's Alpha SV in to Arcteryx for warranty. What do you think will happen? During the summer, I sent in my 10y.o. Theta SV inArcteryx was not willing to send me a new jacket free, but they did give me 50% off on a new Alpha SV jacket. I am expecting the same here.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_6301.JPG 
Views:	22 
Size:	730.2 KB 
ID:	320275
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_6302.JPG 
Views:	24 
Size:	400.5 KB 
ID:	320276
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_6300.JPG 
Views:	20 
Size:	518.1 KB 
ID:	320277
    A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both.
    ― Milton Friedman

  21. #171
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    19,375
    should get something, but that looks like wear and abrasions on a fold, duno what they will think about that ?

    I just sent in a Beta shell that was left in GF's studio, it had a broken pocket zip, various loose taping and delaminations but it looked not bad so they gave her a 700$ credit so she thru in another 100$ for an even better shell ... she is impressed

    My ski season is over so I sent in my ski pack for loose stitching on the hip belt which they are still in the process of fixing ... also happy with that


    Just an FYI for anybody reading, when you slap a bunch of duct tape on a piece not only does it make a fucking mess it voids the warranty sez the guy at the shop I did the warranty thru, GF had taped up the powder cord & housing at the inside of the bottom hem of the shell which Arcterxy said normaly voided warranty but there was enough other shit that they overlooked the tape and gave a full credit
    Last edited by XXX-er; 03-14-2020 at 03:16 PM.
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •