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Thread: Bears Ears National Monument
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12-05-2017, 11:01 AM #126
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12-05-2017, 11:04 AM #127
Ed Abbey is turning in his grave right now.
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12-05-2017, 11:04 AM #128
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12-05-2017, 11:05 AM #129
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12-05-2017, 11:06 AM #130
And I bet all of you own a car or two.
dirtbag, not a dentist
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12-05-2017, 11:19 AM #131
Ed was no fan of the NPS, for sure. We own 3 cars.
Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
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12-05-2017, 11:32 AM #132
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12-05-2017, 01:01 PM #133
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12-05-2017, 01:47 PM #134
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12-05-2017, 01:56 PM #135
Go traipsing around on one of those big resource extraction leases and let me know how it goes for you. Those guys aren't paying market rate, and they are given shit that used to be open to the public and keeping the public out. I don't think it's terribly far-fetched to say that it's stealing from Joe Public. For sure, something has been taken from you and given to someone else, and you're not getting compensated for the loss at all.
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12-05-2017, 02:04 PM #136
So, I am thinking about taking the kiddo RV Camping in the Bears Ears area next spring break (before it is strip mined or whatever). Anyone have boondocking suggestions? I don't have a ton of off road clearance...
Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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12-05-2017, 02:10 PM #137
I’m pretty much devastated by this whole situation. By the local politics, by Zinke, by trump. The locals interviewed in escalante are pretty disappointed, the visitation has made living there viable.
When you take the fact that the most important piece of beats ears as far as a historical/artifacts site was rescinded it’s just plain criminal. I hope someday history shows what tools and criminals these guys are.
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12-05-2017, 02:28 PM #138
Joe Public is working those jobs and also taking their BMWX5 to Starbucks using those resources. To say they aren't getting anything is bullshit.
Stealing from Joe Public? That's a fucking joke. This is clearly a move from an elected official using the tools at his disposal to appeal to his constituency. Don't like it, change it.
What has been taken from you and given to someone else? I would be good money you never step foot on those millions of acres, but have reaped the benefits of tons of the fruits of cheap grazing and resource extraction from public lands. And you want compensation? Get real.
And what crime would that be? Crimes against humanity? Ecoterrorism? Have artifacts been destroyed? Did NEPA just go out the door too?
There is nothing at all, nothing, that prevents your elected officials from passing legislation re-designating any public lands. There is nothing that prevents the next president from reinstating or creating new monuments completely unilaterally.
Further, congress gave this power to the executive. They can also rescind it, and any designations they don't like.
There is no theft or crime. Stop being so sensational.Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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12-05-2017, 02:30 PM #139
I don't know the actual designation area (ie what's in and what's out) but from recollection from camping on cedar mesa and the whole general area years ago when I lived in Durango, there is very very little that works for an RV with little clearance. Maybe a few things up Butler Wash?
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12-05-2017, 02:32 PM #140
https://backcountrypost.com/threads/...mb-ridge.5671/
Better get there quick, it'll be destroyed by next year.Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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12-05-2017, 02:32 PM #141
National Trust For Historic Preservation Raises Millions To Demolish Trump’s Boyhood Home
WASHINGTON—Overwhelmed by the outpouring of support from the public, the National Trust for Historic Preservation reported Wednesday that it had raised more than $8 million in just three days to demolish President Trump’s boyhood home in Queens, NY. “Thanks to the generosity of the American people, we are well on our way to bulldozing the president’s first home as part of our mission to uphold America’s cultural heritage and values,” said NTHP president Stephanie K. Meeks, adding that not only had dozens of companies come forward to match their employees’ donations but that dozens of children had made much smaller contributions to the cause by sharing their allowance money. “Still, we never imagined that razing the site where the 45th president spent his early years would be greeted so enthusiastically. Big donors, small donors—it seems that Americans from all walks of life want to chip in to make sure that no trace of this structure exists for future generations.” Meeks went on to say that the ground upon which the historic childhood home once stood would be immediately available for new development.
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12-05-2017, 02:50 PM #142
The fruits of the below-market-rate resource extraction accrue to the lease-holders, idiot. We're talking about global commodities markets and small q from the producers. The producers you are talking about are functionally price-takers. Access to subsidized production inputs for the lease-holders just accrues to the lease-holders (and the politicians they bribe) as rents. If you think otherwise, fucking model it and then test your model with the relevant econometrics. Fucking idiot. Stick to topics you're knowledgeable about.
What have I lost? Boondock camping and easy canyon hikes with my kids. Habitat for large game, etc. I live here in Utah and have pretty serious climbing/biking/camping hobbies. It's a shit deal for outdoorsmen.
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12-05-2017, 02:56 PM #143
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12-05-2017, 03:27 PM #144
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12-05-2017, 03:29 PM #145
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12-05-2017, 03:30 PM #146
We've gained absolutely nothing by decreasing them. It's sad and shitty.
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12-05-2017, 03:34 PM #147Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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12-05-2017, 03:35 PM #148
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12-05-2017, 03:37 PM #149
MTM is spicy today!
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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12-05-2017, 03:38 PM #150
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