192 bro replacement

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 12:06 PM

What ski replaces the venerable big bro? Mine are 5+ years old and have a few hundred days lift served and 40-50 skinning. I never clicked into a pair of skis that I clicked with like these. Blizzard Bodacious are pretty similar numbers wise plus 3.5mm underfoot, but I'm worried that the no metal version just won't have it.

What say the mags? What's the new uberbro?

**2FUNKY** · 12-28-2016, 12:09 PM

Praxis RX.

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 12:12 PM

No

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 12:14 PM

Maybe a wrenegade 108. I need to demo.

**TAFKALVS** · 12-28-2016, 12:23 PM

Other skis to consider (Big Mountain directional pow skis)
Lotus 120
Volkl Confession
K2 Pinnacle 118
Salomon QST 118
Kastle BMX 115

More like the Bro Fat (tapered tip): Cham 117.

Maybe think about a demo day or something. If you were okay with narrower it opens up a lot more skis that have a similar shape - IE Cochise, Dynastar LP105, Cham 107, etc.

I doubt you'll find a ski that feels similar to the PM Gear layup but might find something that feels similar in shape/turn radius, etc.

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 12:23 PM

I've got LP105s I really like them. Mellow easy to turn but can still charge.

I don't think the Cham series would work for me. I don't get along with a pintail.

**TAFKALVS** · 12-28-2016, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

I don't think the Cham series would work for me. I don't get along with a pintail.

You can try mine sometime, I'll bring a few pairs to BBI. They're not for everybody but I like them because they allow you to ski fast but never feel planky and are still fun in tight places. A lot closer to the Lhasa in shape though.

And I'm sure bobby has some RX for you to try.

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 12:49 PM

I had Lhasa fats but I didn't love the pintail. If the Vulcans had existed the 192s would have stayed my touring sticks

**Tye 1on** · 12-28-2016, 01:11 PM

One of the Volkls?

**Timberridge** · 12-28-2016, 01:22 PM

Soul 7

**TAFKALVS** · 12-28-2016, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Soul 7

Star7 with custom top sheet.

**snapt** · 12-28-2016, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tye 1on

One of the Volkls?

193 Confession might fit the bill, though a little shorter radius?

**2FUNKY** · 12-28-2016, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

No

They're pretty damn similar.

**pfluffenmeister** · 12-28-2016, 01:38 PM

196 Moment Governor?

https://www.momentskis.com/products/governor

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

They're pretty damn similar.

Really? I guess I don't know anything about them. I just figured that was a stock response. I've equated them with Dps rc112 because Bobby likes them both.

**adrenalated** · 12-28-2016, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Really? I guess I don't know anything about them. I just figured that was a stock response. I've equated them with Dps rc112 because Bobby likes them both.

Yeah, it actually is a good suggestion. Pretty traditional shape, long sidecut radius, minimal rocker...

Folsom has a bunch of shapes with a long turn radius too in 190+. Giver, Penitentiary, Johnny C.

**Wawawa** · 12-28-2016, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Really? I guess I don't know anything about them. I just figured that was a stock response. I've equated them with Dps rc112 because Bobby likes them both.

Ha ha, this might be the one time "Praxis RX" ISN'T a stock response. I would not associate them at all with the DPS 112s. They're pretty straight, minimal taper, rocker is shallow, plenty of camber, heft, and running length. They were too much ski for me and I sold mine (to Bobby). I felt like they skied way bigger than their specs would suggest, i.e., a real Big Boy Ride, which would seem to fit the bill.

I'd second the Govs; a have a big chargy friend who is suitably impressed by his. I also have a buddy who loves his Moment Garbones, which is long gone, but came back last year as the M1. That's a little smaller at 105, though, and I don't see it on their site anymore. It was a Special Reserve model last year.

**2FUNKY** · 12-28-2016, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Really? I guess I don't know anything about them. I just figured that was a stock response. I've equated them with Dps rc112 because Bobby likes them both.

RX: 141-116-128 32m
BRO: 143-114-132 35m
Effective edge is within a few mm.
Rocker profiles are real close as well.

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 02:29 PM

Shows you how much I know.

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 12-28-2016, 02:41 PM

Maybe something in this thread if you're on a budget http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...quest-max-120s

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 02:47 PM

I didn't love my 194 XXLs. They were alright but not magical like the big bros

**ill-advised strategy** · 12-28-2016, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

RX: 141-116-128 32m
BRO: 143-114-132 35m
.

This doesn't add up....the "32m" has a little less sidecut than the "35m"???

not that it matters in this context....just noticing a discrepancy.

Also, I have a pair of blank topsheet blems from way back. They're in decent shape but have been mounted a bunch. Stuck in the flatlands now....they've become wall skis...hanging there taunting me, reminding me of this shithole and it's laughable skiing. Anyway, I would trade for a decent pair of 165cm race SL.

**Chugachjed** · 12-28-2016, 03:36 PM

The bro doesn't have taper. Blank topsheet what?

**TAFKALVS** · 12-28-2016, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

This doesn't add up....the "32m" has a little less sidecut than the "35m"???

not that it matters in this context....just noticing a discrepancy.

Also, I have a pair of blank topsheet blems from way back. They're in decent shape but have been mounted a bunch. Stuck in the flatlands now....they've become wall skis...hanging there taunting me, reminding me of this shithole and it's laughable skiing. Anyway, I would trade for a decent pair of 165cm race SL.

RX is shorter.