Truck snow tires

[XXX-er]

I've been happy with the DMV2s, but I'll give those hakka 10 SUV a try on the F150 if they are beefy enough.

Junior is a fairly serious gear freak and a pretty smart kid, he is rural, but is not hauling in winter so he put SUV's on his F150 and suggested I check out same to save a little on the Tundra but Nokian doesn't make em, i think the saving would be about 100$ a set

[summit]

It has become a no brainer by repeating the " om studded Nokkian " mantra often enough, i seem to remember 15 yrs ago there was a question whether snow tires were needed and on the off chance they were " just get the cheap ones from wally world "

I remember 20 years ago when I first got snows. It let me get by driving an old front wheel sedan for years. Then I got a SUV and learned that 4WD and ATs was sketchier than snow tires and front wheel drive when it came to handling, cornering, braking... the 4WD just helped with the go and don't get stuck.

"cheap snows from wally world" are always going to crush all season tires, which is what the discussion 15-20 years ago was. That is still true.

[summit]

Junior is a fairly serious gear freak and a pretty smart kid, he is rural, but is not hauling in winter so he put SUV's on his F150 and suggested I check out same to save a little on the Tundra but Nokian doesn't make em, i think the saving would be about 100$ a set

What was he looking for on the Tundra? They make a 275/65/18 which is stock on the Gen 2/2.5s. The new gen 3s are 265/70/18 stock 275/65/18 will fit those wheels while being 0.5" diameter downsize. I went to 17s to do 265/70/17s.
https://nokiantyres.studio.crasman.c...ember_2022.pdf

[XXX-er]

well SUV's worked for juniors f-150

Kal shop guy sez there were no SUV's for my 24 Tundra maybe cuz he wasn't looking on the right screen or maybe cuz truck is so new or maybe cuz its canada eh

in any case they gave 60$ off each tire and its all sorted

[XXX-er]

I remember 20 years ago when I first got snows. It let me get by driving an old front wheel sedan for years. Then I got a SUV and learned that 4WD and ATs was sketchier than snow tires and front wheel drive when it came to handling, cornering, braking... the 4WD just helped with the go and don't get stuck.

"cheap snows from wally world" are always going to crush all season tires, which is what the discussion 15-20 years ago was. That is still true.

yup ^^ as the road warrior I was spending so much $ on fuel and repairs for a 90 4 runner that I traded it for a new 01 TDi Golf essentially I swapped my fuel bill for my car payment

I had Hak 1's at the time and I could plow thru a ft of fresh pow also the Golf was way safer at highway speed than the SUV

I always ran snows up here even in Vangroovy

[SoVT Joey]

I have studded duratracs on my superduty. 325/65r18 on a 8” wheel balanced with bags and I don’t tow in the winter. They were stupid expensive though like 540 a tire studded plus sensors. Absolutely bulletproof studded tire.


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[summit]

E truck tires? $$
Studded? $$$
34.6" diameter? $$$$
With 325mm section width? $$$$$
Goodyear? $$$$$$

I bet those weigh 100lbs a corner! You don't tow? You could tow a Piston Bully 300 with those tires!

[SnowMachine]

Super glad I put new AT4W's on two weeks ago and I'm trading my truck in today. The deals on the new trucks are just too good. I think I'm going K03 on the new one, but they're about 3 weeks out. So if it starts snowing out west next week for 3 weeks straight it's because of me.

[SoVT Joey]

E truck tires? $$
Studded? $$$
34.6" diameter? $$$$
With 325mm section width? $$$$$
Goodyear? $$$$$$

I bet those weigh 100lbs a corner! You don't tow? You could tow a Piston Bully 300 with those tires!

Like 140 with a wheel mounted. Stupid heavy. Not as bad as my 37s.


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[John_B]

Like 140 with a wheel mounted. Stupid heavy. Not as bad as my 37s.


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Holy hell I just threw out my back trying to imagine changing from summer to winter tires at that weight! God those things must suck to lift.

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[Sinecure]

We have a '21 Sierra Denali 2500. My wife drives it to/from the horse barn in Reno from our house in Tahoe. Plus tows horses with it sometimes in winter. When I bought it, I found a guy selling a brand new stock set of tires/rims from the same truck (he'd lifted his and put stupid big wheels on it). Last year when I was replacing the snows I couldn't find Nokians anywhere (they used to produce in Russia and can't, so stock is scarce). Put on Blizzak LT 275/65 R20. They work fine. And now everything fits in my garage. If it would only snow more.

[summit]

Like 140 with a wheel mounted. Stupid heavy. Not as bad as my 37s.

JFC, my snows are 67#/corner and my summers will be 91#/corner with E rated nAT 35s.

Last year when I was replacing the snows I couldn't find Nokians anywhere (they used to produce in Russia and can't, so stock is scarce)

Nokian opened a factory in Tennessee this year to replace the Russian factory.

[bthomson22]

Scooped up some 275/70r17 LT3s for my 4runner a couple of months back. Glad I did because they're no longer making that size. I know the D-load is overkill for a SUV, but I was pretty set on matching the same size, at least in circumference, as my summers (275/70r17 wildpeaks). My old DM-V2s were great for the first 2 years, but by year 3 the uneven wear started to show. I figured keep the same size would mean keeping alignment as good as it can be. Excited to try Nokians after so many years of hearing how good they are.

[Toadman]

I remember 20 years ago when I first got snows. It let me get by driving an old front wheel sedan for years. Then I got a SUV and learned that 4WD and ATs was sketchier than snow tires and front wheel drive when it came to handling, cornering, braking... the 4WD just helped with the go and don't get stuck.

"cheap snows from wally world" are always going to crush all season tires, which is what the discussion 15-20 years ago was. That is still true.

Especially now a days. Even the cheap made in Laos by Chinese owned companies produce a fairly uniform tire with knock off winter compounds.

[XXX-er]

what i have noticed in 25 yrs of being the hak Fanboi I would still lose studs

but I didn' lose any studs in this last set of Haks and these are the square studs

[El Chupacabra]

Especially now a days. Even the cheap made in Laos by Chinese owned companies produce a fairly uniform tire with knock off winter compounds.

I think my GT Ice Pro studdable winter tires (which I didn't get studded) on the old 2500 pickup are from China. Cheapest possible winter tire I could find in an E load range, from a real tire company (ie not Ling Long or Liao Lion etc). Something like $125 each.

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I bought tires for 5 cars last winter. I stopped looking at price. ugh.

[SoVT Joey]

$9504 for 18 tires. There isn’t enough lube in vermont to take that ass fucking.


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[J. Barron DeJong]

$9504 for 18 tires. There isn’t enough lube in vermont to take that ass fucking.


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Hit up Diddy.

[Toadman]

I think my GT Ice Pro studdable winter tires (which I didn't get studded) on the old 2500 pickup are from China. Cheapest possible winter tire I could find in an E load range, from a real tire company (ie not Ling Long or Liao Lion etc). Something like $125 each.

Yes, those Giti Ice Pros are made in China. They also have a factory studding machine to pre-stud tires. So does Hankook for both the Hankook branded and Laufenn branded studdable winter tires. They tend to be more uniform than hand studding like most tire shops do and probably lose fewer studs than doing them by hand. Not sure about Nokian and if they have a factory studding set up but would imagine that they would with the amount of studdable tires they sell.

[XXX-er]

25 yrs of Nokian IME all came pre-studded, I don't think there are any provinces that don't allow studs so they could stud all the tires coming to syrup land

I would stilll lose those studs but this last set on a tacoma I did not lose any of those square studs

[Travist185]

25 yrs of Nokian IME all came pre-studded, I don't think there are any provinces that don't allow studs so they could stud all the tires coming to syrup land

I would stilll lose those studs but this last set on a tacoma I did not lose any of those square studs

Nokians factory installed studs have great retention. They are shaped differently under the tread to hold the stud in. Some of the higher end hakkapeliitta tires use different studs in the center of the tread vs. the sides. Amazing tires

[zion zig zag]

I gave myself a little reminder of how much of a difference snow tires make this last weekend. I haven't made the switch to snow tires on my Tacoma yet this year and last weekend we got 4-5 inches of snow. The county hadn't plowed the road yet but it was packed where several cars had driven over it. I went to make a right hand turn off of my gravel road, pressed the brake and turned the wheel and just continued straight through the intersection at the same speed. As soon as I got stopped I did a three point turn in the road (in 4wd, with some sliding), went home and jumped in my wife's CR-V with snow tires and tried again. In her car I honestly would have never known that the road was very slick, just seemed "normal."

The tires on the Tacoma are Toyo Open Country A/T III with about 20k miles on them, so not like they are terrible tires.

[Hood26]

My Halas are still about 60% and have most of their studs. This is their 4th season. About 10k per season

[jmedslc]

I gave myself a little reminder of how much of a difference snow tires make this last weekend. I haven't made the switch to snow tires on my Tacoma yet this year and last weekend we got 4-5 inches of snow. The county hadn't plowed the road yet but it was packed where several cars had driven over it. I went to make a right hand turn off of my gravel road, pressed the brake and turned the wheel and just continued straight through the intersection at the same speed. As soon as I got stopped I did a three point turn in the road (in 4wd, with some sliding), went home and jumped in my wife's CR-V with snow tires and tried again. In her car I honestly would have never known that the road was very slick, just seemed "normal."

The tires on the Tacoma are Toyo Open Country A/T III with about 20k miles on them, so not like they are terrible tires.

I had a similar experience this week in my Tundra w BFG KO2. The wet snow got compacted and was ridiculously slick, went sliding down my hill, no stopping or steering...a white knuckle situation and i'm glad nobody was on the hill at that moment. Got an appt on Monday to swap to the Blizzaks. Took the Subaru w X-ice out right afterwards and was able to start/stop no problem on the middle of the hill. Always amazing to see how well the tires perform in testing scenarios...and then ya realize the much higher degree of safety delivered in all situations. Snow tires FTW!