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  1. #76
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    Praxis Quixote - Jumped the Shark or Legit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breomonkey View Post
    What do you all think about a narrower Q?
    Interested in this because I was thinking a -1 Q would be money. But Iggy noted in the On3p thread that the benefits of a asymmetrical ski decrease in smaller widths.
    Last edited by Joebornstein; 03-10-2017 at 11:58 AM.

  2. #77
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    Assym benefits decrease with decreasing width or increasing width?
    Aggressive in my own mind

  3. #78
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    They ski great whilst drinking this beer

    http://throwbackbrewery.com/beer/donkey-hote/

  4. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoarhey View Post
    Assym benefits decrease with decreasing width or increasing width?
    The benefits of Asym designs decrease as the waist width gets smaller.

  5. #80
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    Even without the assym the numbers and profile look awesome. I'm guessing the camber is probably 2 or 3 mm

  6. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chugachjed View Post
    I wasn't sure about the stiffness until I skiied it. Handflexed softer than anticipated but skis perfectly. I'm in love.
    You've been skiing on the Quixote for a while. Just how good is it?

  7. #82
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    Pretty damn good. Today was the first time since I got them that I pulled out another ski, dynastar LP105s for the slush. Would have been more fun on the Qs.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

  8. #83
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    Nice!

    Funny enough I was riding my LP105s today and I love that ski! But my GPOs would have been a hoot to ride in those conditions (more loose and slarvy).

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    I love the pop of the lps in those conditions just bouncing from turn to turn making trenches. But in the funky snow where it wasn't as consolidated the Qs would have been the ticket for sure.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

  10. #85
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    Maybe you need a Q with carbon?

  11. #86
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    The Q is great the way it is. No layup magic is going to make it ski like a metal dynastar.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

  12. #87
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    Don't underestimate the mad ski scientist's that are Praxis.
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  13. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    Don't underestimate the mad ski scientist's that are Praxis.
    Still never gonna have edge grip like a race room dynastar or other Euro brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Still never gonna have edge grip like a race room dynastar or other Euro brand.
    Yup, but edge grip is not the point of a ski like the Q. They're supposed to be loose, surfy and drifty while at the same time being stable and predictable. The race room skis are fun but skis like the Q are a different type of fun.

  15. #90
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    That's why you've got to have both.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chugachjed View Post
    That's why you've got to have both.
    my point exactly

  17. #92
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    Not that it'll behave like a race ski - but the Quixote will certainly lock in on edge(s) pretty well when you want it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
    Not that it'll behave like a race ski - but the Quixote will certainly lock in on edge(s) pretty well when you want it to.
    Ehhhh... sure. I wouldn't have gotten flushed off a cliff on my LPs like I did on the Qs. Granted that was blue ice and the lps are 10cm shorter. But they would have held the damn edge.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

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    Anyone able to compare Q to Concepts (ideally 188 to 187)?

  20. #95
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    Q's don't ski like Concepts, both phenomenal sticks in their own right, just very different
    Fear, Doubt, Disbelief, you have to let it all go. Free your mind!

  21. #96
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    Q is WAY more lively and fun than the OG moustache concept. Not sure how it compares to the current iteration with the compound camber.
    wait!!!! waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait...Wait!
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  22. #97
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    Cool. Traded the Concepts and my GPOs are sold so I'm in the clear to pick up a pair of these in the April sale. Thinking #4 Flex, ash veneer. Either stock horse topsheet, or Jamaican lion or Mountain Sunrise with the veneer.

    Question is Maple-ash or MAP core? I was pretty happy with the MAP in my GPOs, although definitely not the same damp feel as let's say my brothers BGs.

    Thinking maybe the maple ash might give a better resort feel for cut up and chop, variable tracked out snow in the afternoon or days after a storm where I won't want my map-c Protests. Thoughts?

  23. #98
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    Ash Carbon Veneer is awesome in my Piste-Jibs, definitely my favorite build for straight up resort snow. I like the pop of carbon and the Veneer and Ash work really well to add the dampness you lose from an all glass build.

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    Shu Shu can you compare those to just a normal MAP layup (have you skied MAP only)?

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    Here is what I own and have skied pretty extensively now

    Protest MAP-C
    GPO MAP-C
    Concept-MAP
    Piste Jib-ASH-C-V

    Here is how I see the different build options for Praxis, with the caveat that veneer is fkn awesome and I will always include on any more Praxis skis I buy.

    MAP-V-awesome all rounder
    MAP-C-V -all day pow slayer
    ASH-V- FKN Charger
    ASH-C-V-Pop"y" Charger

    FWIW its worth if I was buying the Q as a POW ski would go MAP-C-V, if I was buying it as a pow-crud-soft-snow allrounder I'd go MAP-V, or ASH-C-V.

    Oddly as rad as the Q looks I am mulling the idea of an MVP in a ASH-C-V.
    Last edited by Shu Shu; 03-25-2017 at 08:02 PM.

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