Zwift, TR, Sufferfest etc

**Dee Hubbs** · 02-11-2021, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Sandbox

Anyone have any suggestion for a beginner ( level 9) frame?? I dumped some points into wheels but thinking a frame next. Anything I should be looking at?

Wait until Level 10. Buy the Canyon 2021 Aeroad. 568,000 points. Its the 3rd fastest bike under Level 30. and 6th fastest overall (excluding the Tron Bike and the 2 stupid Level 50 1.5m point bikes)

**Dee Hubbs** · 02-11-2021, 08:53 PM

Here is my Level 19 WANTS and HAVES

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**bennymac** · 02-11-2021, 09:41 PM

in my complete Jong opinion

The Cannondale EVO plus the Enve 3.4 is a killer cheap combo for climbing - and those wheels are likely comparable in aero performance to the zwift entry level ones for everyday riding (that's my suspicion - not sure if that's been tested)

From there I would add the Zipp 808 wheels for flat courses (since wheels make a bigger difference than frames)

and then finally get the Aeroroad frame.

this is where I'm at currently - from here is seems like quite a jump in levels/drops to the next ideal upgrades

**Sandbox** · 02-11-2021, 09:49 PM

Damn you are one organized bastard.... that’s impressive. I’ll set my sights on that canyon.

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**Full Trucker** · 02-11-2021, 10:01 PM

I’m just stoked I have pink socks.

**jamal** · 02-11-2021, 11:40 PM

I just picked up the canyon to have something marginally faster on the flats. Hard to beat the dtswiss wheels for, like, any purpose. Still no lightweights, but I've only been up adz 4 times.

Funny thing is I bought some 202s thinking they'd be a better climbing wheel, then looked at the zwiftinsider charts and nope. Just stick with the dtswss.

**huckbucket** · 02-12-2021, 06:43 AM

I magically unlocked a Dogma the other day on one of the TdZ stages. No idea how or why or how good it is in Zwift.

**Dee Hubbs** · 02-12-2021, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by huckbucket

I magically unlocked a Dogma the other day on one of the TdZ stages. No idea how or why or how good it is in Zwift.

You get this for completing the Tour Italy Challenge.
It’s slower than the 2021 Aeroad (level 10) and the Zwift Aero bike (level 13)

**buttahflake** · 02-12-2021, 09:21 AM

They used to give the Trek Emonda at the top of the Alpe. I don’t think you can get it anymore. Combined with the enve 3.4’s, wicked nice climbing rig. So glad I got one.

**Dee Hubbs** · 02-12-2021, 09:33 AM

The Trek Emonda is awarded when you have the Everest Challenge selected, and you complete the climb to the height of Everest, 8848m. All the way up until the 8848m point your challenge will show your completion percentage towards the 8848m. Once you complete the height of 8848m, (and you receive your Trek Emonda) your progress percentage switches from 100% (height of Everest) to 17% of the total height for the 50,000m Everest Challenge. When the 50,000 meter challenge is complete you will get the Zwift Concept 1 Bike, aka the Tron Bike.

**buttahflake** · 02-12-2021, 09:36 AM

Dee Hubbs is the man! So dialed in.
Are they still awarded now? I heard they stopped doing that. My irl road bike is a 2019 Emonda, love that bike!

**kathleenturneroverdrive** · 02-12-2021, 09:54 AM

I got one a few months back when I finished the Everest challenge so I'd guess they're still available

**Dee Hubbs** · 02-12-2021, 10:03 AM

The Emonda was always awarded (and still is) for the Everest climb, even before the introduction of the Drop Shop. When the drop shop first came into effect, the Emonda was not on the purchase list, and was excluded from the early "speed tests" of all the bikes, because they were only rated the bikes you could buy. This made some confusion on if the Emonda was still available. It's included in most of the recent tests.
The Trek Emonda (with Lightweight Meilensteins) is the 3rd fastest climbing bike, behind the 2nd place Cannondale Evo and 1st place Tarmac Pro. Its even faster (in climbs) than the Tron bike.

**bennymac** · 02-12-2021, 12:48 PM

Zwift insider has it as a two-way tie between Cannonale Evo and Spesh Tarmac Pro frames for climbing

“ The Tarmac Pro puts in precisely the same climb and flat times as the Cannondale Evo, but the Evo has a lower price and level requirement.”

https://zwiftinsider.com/fastest-bik...-for-climbing/

**Full Trucker** · 02-12-2021, 02:21 PM

Welp, I nerded out and got myself some new stuff. Spent some drops and got the DT wheels and a new kit. Am I doing it right yet?

**fool** · 02-12-2021, 04:01 PM

Damn, this gear/swag discussion is next level!

I'm not on Zwift yet but looking to get there soon... are there any Denver/Boulder mags looking to sell a smart trainer? Like, this (cold ass) weekend? I've found a few Wahoo Kickr Snap's on CLs but would love to make a deal with a mag.

**VTskibum** · 02-12-2021, 06:06 PM

Love it Dee all the spreadsheets, have enough of that at work! I just occasionally check Zwift insider to see what’s best.

I’m lvl 26 and run the Canyon + DT wheel combo for everything except Jungle or AdZ/Ventoux. Even on an epic KOM the canyon + DT combo is good overall. The fact that it’s on climbing and speed lists is telling enough. Set and forget, until I finish getting the Tron bike

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**EWG** · 02-12-2021, 09:07 PM

I’m about three posts away from putting zwift gear in the shit that annoys me thread.

But I am amazed and impressed by Dee’s spreadsheets.

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**Dee Hubbs** · 02-12-2021, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by EWG

I’m about three posts away from putting zwift gear in the shit that annoys me thread.

But I am amazed and impressed by Dee’s spreadsheets.

You need a spreadsheet to figure out your BLE/ANT+ signals.

**EWG** · 02-12-2021, 09:30 PM

Holy crap.

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**Dee Hubbs** · 02-12-2021, 10:31 PM

TDZ - the Tour de Zwift makeup stages have been scheduled and posted.
Looks like Stage 1-8 will be offered everyday, every two hours. Staring Saturday Feb 13 through Saturday Feb 20th.
Stage 1 starts on the odd hours (1:00, 3:00, 5:00)
Stage 2 starts at :15 on the odd hours (1:15, 3:15, etc)
Stage 3 starts at :30 on the odd hours (1:30, 3:30, etc)
Stage 4 starts at :45 on the odd hours (1:45, 3:45, etc)
Stage 5 starts on the even hour (2:00, 4:00, 6:00)
Stage 6 starts at :15 on the even hour (2:15, 4:15, etc)
Stage 7 starts at :30 on the even hour (2:30, 4:30, etc)
Stage 8 starts at :45 on the even hour (2:15, 4:45, etc)

8 days to catch up on all the stages you missed, or want to re-ride (race).

**grrrmountainman** · 02-12-2021, 11:58 PM

DH - you’re a machine. But, I can’t understand you unless you’re in spreadsheet format

PS - you’re forever the spreadsheet dude. And tell me to fuck off anytime

PSS - interesting how it’s a dichotomy between having an income vs not. I miss having time off and those without income miss having a job. Fuck a duck.

**huckbucket** · 02-13-2021, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

You need a spreadsheet to figure out your BLE/ANT+ signals.

I'm with EWG (yes, that hurt to say). This right here and all of the Zwift equipment talk is horseshit. Everyone knows you should be spending more time on your choice of hair and kit.

**buttahflake** · 02-13-2021, 07:27 AM

Noobs, pull the socks high! Most important part of Zwift is tall socks!

**Flounder** · 02-13-2021, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by EWG

I’m about three posts away from putting zwift gear in the shit that annoys me thread.

It could also go in the first world problems thread! I doubt I’ll ever figure it all out but I’m happy with my socks and jersey choices so far.

I’m giving the ftp work out a go. Keep over doing it during free ride, riding faster than my knees can take. Not sure if I’ll complete the plan but hopefully it’ll keep the soreness down and build strength.