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11-18-2018, 04:16 PM #476
^ I bought the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W after driving 2 months on a new pair of BFG T/A KO2's (1st gen tundra). Much better tire for my purposes.
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11-18-2018, 04:39 PM #477Registered User
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Yeah, as an off-road tire, that might be a good tire. But is it better in snow? Quieter on the road? Etc. Looks like a little more off-road oriented and I am just guessing that it isn't as good in snow than a BFG AT/TKO looking at the much less aggressive siping. A lot of tires are good at one thing or the other.
I've just always found the BFG good enough in the snow for me, while still driving well in the summer, and handling well off road where I go. I've seen BFG's do 40K+ a few times on my old Taco, probably more. I have them on a F150 now and seem fine so far but only 15K in. I was on a glazed ice road a few weeks ago and helped pull three rental cars out of the ditch with no issues. I should have some good karma coming for that one.
I'm not arguing that these are the best tires in the world, but for all around mountain driving on/off road performance on a truck, they are pretty darn good. To say they suck is just plain incorrect.
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11-18-2018, 09:03 PM #478
It’s just another way of rebranding shitty all seasons that do nothing well. Great for summer but not even close when it comes to snow. We put them on the wife’s car as they where cheap on sale, her car sees snow maybe once every two years and we plan to sell that car in a year.
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11-18-2018, 09:12 PM #479
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11-18-2018, 10:48 PM #480Registered User
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Buy good snow tires eh
cuz they are a life saving rubber product
so is the condom
would you skimp on condoms ?Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-18-2018, 11:07 PM #481
Got new Duratracs in July, one was bad from the get-go (unable to balance after four tries, bad vibration at 65-70 mph), got a new one and they're okay now. More noise and minor vibration compared to Michelin AT2, but Duratracs do look awesome, so there's that. Haven't had a chance to off-road them much yet, but expect good things given the tread pattern. Not sure I'd get them again after the balancing fiasco though.
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11-19-2018, 11:09 AM #482
Yeah, new wheels.
These are the 701's from Method, with the fancy serrated bead seat and zero offset. First set to go on a Tundra, at least when I bought em weeks ago. They were one of the only models I could find that put the tread where I wanted and didn't have some stupid ass bling style.
The TRD forged rims coming off are probably a little better quality, but I needed to run wheel spacers with them (getting to about 18mm offset) with the rig's current suspension. I'd rather not run spacers.
Anyone want some RockWarrior rims for Tundra/Sequoia?
I like this post. The case for All-Terrains.
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11-19-2018, 12:05 PM #483
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11-25-2018, 09:01 AM #484
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11-25-2018, 10:31 AM #485Registered User
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my original set of BFG A/Ts lasted around 50K miles on the blazer, put them on when I bought it at 108K and changed out to new KO2s a couple thousand miles before 160K. the new KO2s have of 30K miles currently, it appears they may be wearing slightly faster but that is to be expected with the new compound. the KO2s are a noticeable improvement over the original A/T in terms of off road crawling performance in wet conditions. I don't buy the principle that their performance is adversely affected by cold weather, I have many data points and none of them suggest that.
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11-25-2018, 10:43 AM #486Registered User
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^ They’re not. Tested them yet again yesterday in some nasty packed wet snow and icy roads and they performed flawlessly like the last 2 winters prior. Rallied up a two track in 12” of wet snow like it was nothing in 2 wheel drive. Dropped it into 4wheel just to pull off onto the side where it was muddy underneath to park to start my hunt. Didn’t have a single issue.
Same tire will go on next fall when these will be worn out.
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11-25-2018, 12:38 PM #487cliffed out
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Opinions on dedicated snow tires for a Tacoma that kickass in deep snow? Currently have duratracs on it, which I've found do excellent in deeper snow and snowy trails, and good but not great in packed but soft snow. The area they lack in, not surprisingly, is hard pack and ice. Think Montana freeways and highways. Last winter I worked for a company driving vans in LCC with Michelin LTX snow tires and my Tacoma with duratracs did better in deep snow by a good margin. Not a great comparison cuz two different vehicles but still. Dont think I want studded because the roads in Utah are usually dry and freeway speeds are high. Anyway, any recommendations? Leaning towards Blizzak W965.
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11-25-2018, 05:23 PM #488
There's 19 pages of recommendations.
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11-25-2018, 10:56 PM #489cliffed out
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^^ Meh not really that I could find. Lots of comparisons of Dtracs to other AT tires, a few "my all terrains won't break loose in snow no matter what" comments, and the occasional subie observation. I found one comment about duratracs being better in deep snow then true winter tires, and would like to hear more specifics
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11-26-2018, 08:15 AM #490Registered User
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Unfortunately, it's really hard to make that comparison without doing an A vs B test in the same conditions (plus very few people who are entirely happy with AT tires are going to bother trying true winter tires).
I've got the Nokian LT2s, and I'd expect a snowflake-rated AT tire to outperform them in deep snow; they simply don't have large-enough tread voids (in my best guess). My only comparison to an AT tire is to a cheap but 3PMSF-rated one (Radar Renegade A/T5). The Renegades perform well, perhaps as well, in softer snow but are terrifying on packed snow and ice. I haven't had enough opportunity to drive soft & deep (6"+) snow to really compare. The only time I have needed to use a shovel with the LT2s on I was high-centered, and I don't think any tire would have solved that problem.
Nokian does make an AT tire, but I don't know how it compares to the Duratracs. They certainly know how to make a tire that does well on packed snow and ice, but I don't know what they would have prioritized in that particular tire.
I wouldn't recommend the LT2s unless you need an LT tire; the SUV series has several newer models since the LT2 was released, and the newer tech is probably better.
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11-26-2018, 09:43 AM #491Registered User
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11-26-2018, 11:09 PM #492
I was just lookin at tire rack site. it was odd. I could not find 16” wheels in Toyota lug pattern, 17” was as small as they went. Could not find steel wheels. And holy shit snacks, they’s expensive! Also, I believe 17” tires are mo $$ than the equivalent sized 16”.... it’s a conspiracy! (or i suck at the internet)
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11-27-2018, 09:55 AM #493
Tire Rack might not be the best place to buy rims.
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11-27-2018, 09:56 AM #494
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11-27-2018, 10:02 AM #495
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11-27-2018, 10:47 AM #496Banned
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What Toyota are you looking for wheels for? 2010 and newer 4Runners can't accommodate 16 inch wheels because of the size of the disc brakes. 17 inch wheels are the smallest you can run.
I have my snow tires mounted on a pair of hideously ugly aluminum wheels, as they were on closeout and Discount Tire was running a 4 for the price of the 3 deal on top of that, so I ended up paying less than I would have for 17 inch steelies and they're about 12-15 pounds lighter per wheel too.
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11-27-2018, 11:22 AM #497
1999 land cruiser. 16" is OEM. last year, using the automated tool in tire rack, they'd give me 16" OEM wheel option and then 17 and 18" alternatives. now they give 18" OEM (i don't think that was ever OEM) and 17, 20, and 22" alternatives. i agree with norseman.
toyota also switched to 17" OEM for some vehicles w/o other changes that would functionally necessitate the larger wheel.
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11-27-2018, 11:24 AM #498Banned
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Yeah, disregard, my spiel on wheel sizes was only pertinent for 5th gen 4Runners.
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11-28-2018, 03:10 PM #499pura vida
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I was recently looking through receipts for my truck and realized that I've got 50k on my 33" BFG KO2s and they still have quite a bit of life, I should be able to get through this winter no problem. 2000 land cruiser, sees offroad use, mud, snow, sand. These tires have been great: good offroad, good in the snow, nice and quiet on the highway.
They are very sensitive to a good alignment though. Without that they will wear very fast.
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11-29-2018, 01:05 PM #500
My Dad got a new truck and gifted me the set of studded Wintercats that won't fit his new truck. What's the best place to get some cheap steel rims to mount these on? TireRack and Discount Tire aren't showing a single basic steelie in 16"/5x135.
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