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    Just replaced some tires with a slight less burly duratrac knock-off called the Goodyear UltraTerrain. I recommend. Call it a Discount Tire colab if you will as they aren't available elsewhere. I replaced some E rated tires with these in an E rating for towing and didn't realize how stiff my last set with kevlar sidewalls were compared to other E rated tires. These ride much smoother and are quiet given the tread


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    Blizzaks in F150 are done after 3 seasons, wonít last another winter. Planning on keeping them on the truck through the fall since they still have decent tread left for summer driving.

    Anyone know if there are issues towing a wakeboard boat about 400 miles on the p rated tires? Blizzaks are p255/70/r18 I believe. Rated to 2470lbs/tire

    Boat is on a double axle trailer, weighs about 5000lbs loaded with camping gear. Obviously e rated Lt tires would sway less and do better, but if I can leave the blizzaks on I will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    Blizzaks in F150 are done after 3 seasons, wonít last another winter. Planning on keeping them on the truck through the fall since they still have decent tread left for summer driving.

    Anyone know if there are issues towing a wakeboard boat about 400 miles on the p rated tires? Blizzaks are p255/70/r18 I believe. Rated to 2470lbs/tire

    Boat is on a double axle trailer, weighs about 5000lbs loaded with camping gear. Obviously e rated Lt tires would sway less and do better, but if I can leave the blizzaks on I will
    F-150s come from the factory with P-rated tires and rated for towing over 10k (not that you can get there with most trucks before you run out of payload, but marketing). As long as you're within the GVWR and axle limits, I'd expect that to be reasonable. Watch your pressures closely, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klauss View Post
    Just replaced some tires with a slight less burly duratrac knock-off called the Goodyear UltraTerrain. I recommend. Call it a Discount Tire colab if you will as they aren't available elsewhere. I replaced some E rated tires with these in an E rating for towing and didn't realize how stiff my last set with kevlar sidewalls were compared to other E rated tires. These ride much smoother and are quiet given the tread

    Saw those recently. Thatís a serious consideration for the superduty. Looks a lot like the BFG KO2.

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    Got a couple chucks taken out of my BFG KO2 tire sidewall recently. Still driving on it, but kinda worried. they are maybe 1/8" deep. Tires are about 1 year old. Would you a) not worry about it till I start losing air? b) Replace immediately with a new tire? c) Try to find a similarly worn used tire? d) other

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    ^^^ Would rotate it to one of the rear positions if it's not already there and then drive it like you stole it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    Got a couple chucks taken out of my BFG KO2 tire sidewall recently. Still driving on it, but kinda worried. they are maybe 1/8" deep. Tires are about 1 year old. Would you a) not worry about it till I start losing air? b) Replace immediately with a new tire? c) Try to find a similarly worn used tire? d) other
    have you been rotating 5 tires (including spare) or 4 tires to this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    have you been rotating 5 tires (including spare) or 4 tires to this point?
    This is a good question. I'd also ask what your driving habits are; if you regularly drive rocky Forest service-type roads, the risk of hitting one of the vulnerable spots again seems a lot higher than if you generally stick to pavement, plus the downside is a lot smaller if you have a failed tire on the road versus eighteen miles from nowhere, on a steep trail without a good spot to jack up the truck.

    Middle road, IMO, is to make the damaged tire a spare and put a new tire on, but only if you don't already have a comparable spare (occasionally I get nervous about my spare being an HT tire that would really suck to need in rough conditions). Again, YMMV depending on your driving environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Hankook Dynapro ATM is a good tire, snowflake rated, good/great in snow, reasonably quiet for an AT tire and reasonably priced. I like them as much as the Duratracs I had before.
    Several years later....does this still apply @magnificentunicorn?

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    Those are what I bought recently, so far I like them
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    Same here, had them on my old Nissan, and put them on my new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    Got a couple chucks taken out of my BFG KO2 tire sidewall recently. Still driving on it, but kinda worried. they are maybe 1/8" deep.
    If it didn't cut any internal threads, I wouldn't give it a second thought. If you do a lot of rock crawling and another rock caught the same spot, if could tear a bit more easily, but that's a slim chance.

    Run it.

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    Has anyone ran the new General Grabber A/TX through a winter and have feedback on how they do? I'm putting new tires on my F150 this fall and these are the frontrunner. I ran the old General AT2s on my old montero and they kicked ass in the snow, so I'm inclined to think the ATXs will be solid as well. I commute in the SLC valley and drive LCC 3-4x per week all winter. Not interested in running dedicated snows on this rig. I do carry a set of chains just in case though.

    Other tires in the running are:

    Falken AT3W- do they have full depth siping? The old Wildcat ATs did not.

    Duratrac- have drove a few different rigs with them over the years, but more aggressive than I need and may be lacking in hardpack/ice performance?

    BFG KO2- Grabber AT2s seemed better in the snow to me but I've never ran them on the same rig. Also, $$

    Cooper ATW- ran AT3s on my F250 and they were kind of lacking on hardpack/ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Cooper ATW- ran AT3s on my F250 and they were kind of lacking on hardpack/ice.
    I have been running Cooper ATWs on my 3rd gen 4runner for 2 winters now and have had been pleased with both their dry pavement and snow performance. It looks like Cooper replaced them with the AT3 4s though: http://us.coopertire.com/tires/discoverer-at3-4s

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    Website still has the atw http://us.coopertire.com/tires/discoverer-a-tw-suv

    Itís a pretty different tire compared to the original at3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Falken AT3W- do they have full depth siping? The old Wildcat ATs did not.
    Yes, full depth but does not run across the entire lug like some of the other options out there. IMO they are great in snow, mud, anything loose/soft but not very good on ice. The rubber is holding up very well after 2 years, probably why they aren't great on ice, along with siping that doesn't extend across the entire lug. Bearable with 4wd though.

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    FYI I just got some Cooper AT3 4S (P metric) installed on my 4Runner. Old tires were Yoko Geolandar g015. The Coopers are really nice. Burly mugs and probably the thickest sidewall you can get in a p-metric tire. Rides stiffer than most but not the rock hard ride of an LT on this SUV. Off road they handle great. Can’t wait til the snow flies!

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    OK I'll chime in. I don't have a truck but I do have BFG K02s on my 2015 Subaru Outback. Size is 245/65-17. These tires have excellent snow performance. I had several trips last season over Donner Summit with several inches of snow on the road. No drama, just lots of grip. Same thing when the snow was close to a foot deep going up into the TD neighborhood side roads.

    This summer I've been doing lots of camping trips with my two boys who are both in Scouts. Their troop likes to go remote which means several miles down dirt roads, fire roads, BLM roads, etc. Again, lots of grip and stability even when the conditions are a bit loose. Even when the tires do break loose and slide, it is predictable and easy to bring back. Very nice.

    These tires are very sturdy and as a result are a bit heavy. Road noise is apparent on the highway and MPGs are reduced slightly. Admittedly, these tires may be overkill for my Outback, but I do appreciate how capable they are so I don't mind. I've had them on for over 20K miles and they are wearing nicely. I definitely plan to get another set when these wear out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Cooper ATW- ran AT3s on my F250 and they were kind of lacking on hardpack/ice.
    I have a 4th gen 4runner and have had ATWs for about 18 months now. I think they are a pretty perfect tire for the driving that i do which is on pavement 98% of the time, and only the last 10-20 miles on snow or ice. If the road is open to traffic, i have no worries that i will be safe and in control (as long as im not rallying around like an asshat). When Snowmagedon hit seattle last year, i was fine getting into and out of my condo complex through 12-15 inches of slush up/down the 18% driveway, and driving around the unplowed steep streets around my office. The grip is mediocre on ice or wet and clear hardpack snow, but is totally manageable and expected for a non-winter/studded tire. I havent had any issues on longer roadtrips where im driving 100s of miles on snow/ice covered roads either. The size i got is thinner than my previous set of tires and that actually is quite a noticable positive in that i dont get grabbed and tossed around by pavement/snow grooves nearly as much. I also used to have bad issues hydroplaning in heavy downpours or getting grabbed by puddles on the highway, but those problems have pretty much stopped with the ATWs.

    The wear on the tires is noticable after about 25k, but I fully expect to get 50k out of these before binning them. I think they are a very good option for a non-winter tire with a focus on winter driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    I have a 4th gen 4runner and have had ATWs for about 18 months now. I think they are a pretty perfect tire for the driving that i do which is on pavement 98% of the time, and only the last 10-20 miles on snow or ice. If the road is open to traffic, i have no worries that i will be safe and in control (as long as im not rallying around like an asshat). When Snowmagedon hit seattle last year, i was fine getting into and out of my condo complex through 12-15 inches of slush up/down the 18% driveway, and driving around the unplowed steep streets around my office. The grip is mediocre on ice or wet and clear hardpack snow, but is totally manageable and expected for a non-winter/studded tire. I havent had any issues on longer roadtrips where im driving 100s of miles on snow/ice covered roads either. The size i got is thinner than my previous set of tires and that actually is quite a noticable positive in that i dont get grabbed and tossed around by pavement/snow grooves nearly as much. I also used to have bad issues hydroplaning in heavy downpours or getting grabbed by puddles on the highway, but those problems have pretty much stopped with the ATWs.

    The wear on the tires is noticable after about 25k, but I fully expect to get 50k out of these before binning them. I think they are a very good option for a non-winter tire with a focus on winter driving.
    Also, FWIW, the ATW is rated for only 50k, while the new AT3 4S is rated for 65k. To me, that says that the rubber is softer on the ATW, meaning that it will grip ice and snow much better. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamburello Rouge View Post
    these tires may be overkill for my Outback.
    maybe?
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    I've been a Cooper guy for a long time. My new Tundra came with Michelin LTX AT2s. They don't look cool. I thought I would replace them with something soon. After 10k miles, I'd buy these again when they wear out. 60k warranty too. Wearing great, good on ice, snow, dirt, much, quiet on pavement. The only thing I don't like is the looks. Plus, all the dudes buying new Tundras are selling take-offs cheap on craigslist.

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    Good feedback all. I've historically been a Cooper fan as well and they are based close to my hometown. I like the idea of the ATWs but I'm a little squeamish about the softer compound since it gets so damn hot here in the summer. Guess they have a tread warranty though so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Good feedback all. I've historically been a Cooper fan as well and they are based close to my hometown. I like the idea of the ATWs but I'm a little squeamish about the softer compound since it gets so damn hot here in the summer. Guess they have a tread warranty though so...
    My opinion: I had to take a hard look at how much i actually drive on snow vs pavement. The reality is, unless you live IN the mountains you will be driving on pavement the large majority of the time, even in SLC during the winter (streets get plowed and salted pretty quickly). If you are driving on snow/ice for a large portion of the time during winter, it would be smart to get a dedicated winter set of tires. But, if driving on snow/ice is not an everyday thing, then you probably want to get an "all season" type tire. If you decide on an "all season" type tire you then need to decide how much emphasis you want to place on winter driving... for me, the whole reason i moved to my adopted home state is to ski, so i place a very large emphasis on it and want to be comfortable driving on any road condition where the road is open. That said, you can easily get away with some pretty shitty tires if you have AWD/4WD and stay VERY aware of your grip and stopping distance... but it sucks to drive like that and if you do drive enough in the snow/ice you will eventually become complacent and fuck up. That is where you want that softer, quicker wearing tire with more sipes- to get your ass out of trouble when you do have that momentary lapse.

    For me personally, i am happy to change my tires out 1 year earlier than i would otherwise if it gives me that little safety cushion a handful of times per year. The hassle, plus missed powder day/vacation, and dangerous as fuck situations sitting on the side of a snowy highway waiting for a tow is not worth the 1 year of tire wear i would have saved by going with a longer wearing tire. My car is a 15 year old 4runner that is long since paid off and the general maintenance is super low so i am fine paying a little extra for some extra grip. I also dont take long road trips (300+ miles) more than 5-6 times per year so effeciency isnt a huge concern either. But, everyones situation is different, and as always, YMMV.

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    ...or if you never go off road (gravel, forest roads, etc don't count), you're better off with "touring"/highway summers, and dedicated snows - preferably on separate rims.

    Any tire marketed for year-round use has design compromises.

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